The OFFICIAL NBA thread

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Yea, you know I had to open this...

Let's kick off the 09-10 season...

I would like to mention that the Blazers opened as they should... beating a decimated Rockets team, but beating them good none the less!! 96-87 at the Rose Garden

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CHEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


RIP CITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!


FUCK THE LAKERS TOO

[Tió Nook Nook]

kings better beat OKC tonight

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Days of the season without bump saying something completely asinine about NBA basketball - 1

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if the Raiders were GOOD, I wouldn't be so enthusiastic over an opening night win. But all I got is the Blazers right now.

[Jenny]

if the Raiders were GOOD, I wouldn't be so enthusiastic over an opening night win. But all I got is the Blazers right now.

I'm with you. :hi5

[raiderdude69]

if the Raiders were GOOD, I wouldn't be so enthusiastic over an opening night win. But all I got is the Blazers right now.

And all we got is the Lakers..

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Throwing down some brews during last night's walk through vs the Clips..

What else can we do now that yet ANOTHER Raider season is toast before Halloween? Pa-fucking-thetic..

Nice job by the Blazers last night BTW, Lakers went through the motions and took care of the Clips.. Can't wait till the first Laker-Blazer matchup... We'll see what's up this year.. Should be some good shit..

[Padrino]

And all we got is the Lakers..

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Throwing down some brews during last night's walk through vs the Clips..

What else can we do now that yet ANOTHER Raider season is toast before Halloween? Pa-fucking-thetic..

Nice job by the Blazers last night BTW, Lakers went through the motions and took care of the Clips.. Can't wait till the first Laker-Blazer matchup... We'll see what's up this year.. Should be some good shit..

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Fucking Raiders are making me hate football.

Andrew and Lamar looked great last night. Any word on Pau's return?..

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[raiderdude69]

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Fucking Raiders are making me hate football.

Andrew and Lamar looked great last night. Any word on Pau's return?..

Ain't that the fuckin' truth Jeff.. I hope we shock the hell outta the Chargettes, but man, it could very well be an epic beatdown.. You going to the game or to a local bar? Bandwagon Chargette fans will be out in full force I'm sure..

And yep, Andrew looked good.. He still needs to get his legs back, but he's just a goddamn beast in there.. And Lamar looked as good as ever, like the fact he's continued to stroke the 3-ball nicely.. Still weird to see Artest out there, but he played decent.. Just needs to hit those open shots, but overall a pretty good game..

And really haven't heard or read anything on Pau.. I listen to KLAC 570 online every day, so if there's any news they should have it..

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[raiderdude69]

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just to keep Lakers fans in their place....

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[raiderdude69]

Yada, yada, yada Bump.. :D

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NBA Finals head to head record

LA LAKERS vs BOSTON CELTICS

11 NBA FINALS

BOSTON-9 LA-2

/thread jaajajajaja

[raiderdude69]

Jeez, tell me something I DON'T know..

Oh, here's one..

Championships:

Lakers 15

Blazers ONE..

[Padrino]

Lakers don't play the Trail Blazers until January (1/8/10), and only play them 3 times (2 in Portland). Kind of strange.

GO Lakeshow!..

[raiderdude69]

Lakers don't play the Trail Blazers until January (1/8/10), and only play them 3 times (2 in Portland). Kind of strange.

GO Lakeshow!..

That's right.. That's my dad's b-day, and he lives in the Portland area and has been a Blazer fan since the 70's.. AND it's a Friday night game..

Might have to score some tix for that one and take off work early that Friday and take the old man to watch it live..

[chitown]

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Classic :beer:

[SONIC]

Stephen Curry is going to be a good player. From what I heard about him, dude is mature, unselfish, and is high-quality in character. 14 point, 7 assists, and 4 steals? Not bad for his first game.

Anthony Morrow better be put in the 3-point contest at the All-Star game.

Anthony Randolph is another one that I am really fond of. Dude played his heart out. Hitting that 3 at the end of the 1st half was sweet.

But we need better defense overall. You can't win on offense alone.

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Stephen Curry is going to be a good player. From what I heard about him, dude is mature, unselfish, and is high-quality in character. 14 point, 7 assists, and 4 steals? Not bad for his first game.

Anthony Morrow better be put in the 3-point contest at the All-Star game.

Anthony Randolph is another one that I am really fond of. Dude played his heart out. Hitting that 3 at the end of the 1st half was sweet.

But we need better defense overall. You can't win on offense alone.

Warriors need better everything, they suck.. No need to even talk about them..

THE END

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Days of the season without bump saying something completely asinine about NBA basketball - 0

Why is bump talking shit because of the Celtics?

This dude is smart enough to know the Lakers and Celtics are 2-2 in the modern era. The Celtics beat the Lakers in the Finals during the 50's and 60's, an era with no competitive balance. There was little in terms of spread talent until the late 70's.

That said, the Lakers have been the best organization in basketball since 1980. They've completely dominated 2 decades since, and while Boston did win a title in 08, their organization has been silent most of those years. You can't blame the Lakers for Boston spending 20 years out of the Finals. And with a more balanced league, going to the Finals as often as the Lakers and Celtics did way back when is basically impossible.

And the Blazers have one god damn title so what are you reminding yourself of?

[Bump]

Why is bump talking shit because of the Celtics?

This dude is smart enough to know the Lakers and Celtics are 2-2 in the modern era. The Celtics beat the Lakers in the Finals during the 50's and 60's, an era with no competitive balance. There was little in terms of spread talent until the late 70's.

That said, the Lakers have been the best organization in basketball since 1980. They've completely dominated 2 decades since, and while Boston did win a title in 08, their organization has been silent most of those years. You can't blame the Lakers for Boston spending 20 years out of the Finals. And with a more balanced league, going to the Finals as often as the Lakers and Celtics did way back when is basically impossible.

And the Blazers have one god damn title so what are you reminding yourself of?

Celtics beat the Lakers in '08 didn't they?

Lakers haven't beat the Celtics since what? 87?

So how have the Lakers completely dominated?

You said it yourself they are 2-2 in Finals in the modern era... which is the last 25 years...

That isn't domination..

You will see when the Blazers (who, IMO, undoubtedly have the best 2nd unit in basketball and will be recognized as the best team 1-10) get in the Lakers ass.

[Padrino]

I'm not worried about Portland, Bump. Not in the slightest. They may be a 5th or 6th seed come playoff time, but they're not an elite team. Win a couple playoff series' and then we'll talk.

Go Lakeshow...

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They may be a 5th or 6th seed come playoff

Tor, you're my boy and all... but I do not condone your use of hallucinogenics..

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Oh for Hill................... and all the Faker fans...

http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read

From TIM DONAGHY

If a player of Kobe's stature collides with the likes of Raja Bell, the call will almost always go for Kobe and against Bell. As part of our ongoing training and game preparation, NBA referees regularly receive game-action video tape from the league office. Over the years, I have reviewed many recorded hours of video involving Raja Bell. The footage I analyzed usually illustrated fouls being called against Bell, rarely for him. The message was subtle but clear-call fouls against the star stopper because he's hurting the game.

If Kobe Bryant had two fouls in the first or second quarter and went to the bench, one referee would tell the other two, "Kobe's got two fouls. Let's make sure that if we call a foul on him, it's an obvious foul, because otherwise he's gonna go back to the bench. If he is involved in a play where a foul is called, give the foul to another player."

Similarly, when games got physically rough, we would huddle up and agree to tighten the game up. So we started calling fouls on guys who didn't really matter-"ticky-tack" or "touch" fouls where one player just touched another but didn't really impede his progress. Under regular circumstances these wouldn't be fouls, but after a skirmish we wanted to regain control. We would never call these types of fouls on superstars, just on the average players who didn't have star status. It was important to keep the stars on the floor.

Allen Iverson provides a good example of a player who generated strong reaction, both positive and negative, within the corps of NBA referees. For instance, veteran referee Steve Javie hated Allen Iverson and was loathe [sic] to give him a favorable call. If Javie was on the court when Iverson was playing, I would always bet on the other team to win or at least cover the spread. No matter how many times Iverson hit the floor, he rarely saw the foul line. <----- woooooohooooo ???? ALLEN IVERSON > KOBE ANYONE????

The 2002 Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings presents a stunning example of game and series manipulation at its ugliest. As the teams prepared for Game 6 at the Staples Center, Sacramento had a 3–2 lead in the series. The referees assigned to work Game 6 were Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney, and Ted Bernhardt. As soon as the referees for the game were chosen, the rest of us knew immediately that there would be a Game 7. A prolonged series was good for the league, good for the networks, and good for the game. Oh, and one more thing: it was great for the big-market, star-studded Los Angeles Lakers.

In the pregame meeting prior to Game 6, the league office sent down word that certain calls-calls that would have benefitted the Lakers — were being missed by the referees. This was the type of not-so-subtle information that I and other referees were left to interpret. After receiving the dispatch, Bavetta openly talked about the fact that the league wanted a Game 7.

"If we give the benefit of the calls to the team that's down in the series, nobody's going to complain. The series will be even at three apiece, and then the better team can win Game 7," Bavetta stated.

As history shows, Sacramento lost Game 6 in a wild come-from-behind thriller that saw the Lakers repeatedly sent to the foul line by the referees. For other NBA referees watching the game on television, it was a shameful performance by Bavetta's crew, one of the most poorly officiated games of all time.

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The 2002 series certainly wasn't the first or last time Bavetta weighed in on an important game. He also worked Game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals between the Lakers and the Trail Blazers. The Lakers were down by 13 at the start of the fourth quarter when Bavetta went to work. The Lakers outscored Portland 31–13 in the fourth quarter and went on to win the game and the series. It certainly didn't hurt the Lakers that they got to shoot 37 free throws compared to a paltry 16 for the Trail Blazers.

Two weeks before the 2003–04 season ended, Bavetta and I were assigned to officiate a game in Oakland. That afternoon before the tip-off, we were discussing an upcoming game on our schedule. It was the last regular-season game we were scheduled to work, pitting Denver against San Antonio. Denver had lost a game a few weeks prior because of a mistake made by the referees, a loss that could be the difference between them making or missing the playoffs. Bavetta told me Denver needed the win and that it would look bad for the staff and the league if the Nuggets missed the playoffs by one game. There were still a few games left on the schedule before the end of the season, and the standings could potentially change. But on that day in Oakland, Bavetta looked at me and casually stated, "Denver will win if they need the game. That's why I'm on it."

I was thinking, How is Denver going to win on the road in San Antonio? At the time, the Spurs were arguably the best team in the league. Bavetta answered my question before it was asked.

"Duncan will be on the bench with three fouls within the first five minutes of the game," he calmly stated.

Bavetta went on to inform me that it wasn't the first time the NBA assigned him to a game for a specific purpose. He cited examples, including the 1993 playoff series when he put New Jersey guard Drazen Petrovic on the bench with quick fouls to help Cleveland beat the Nets. He also spoke openly about the 2002 Los Angeles–Sacramento series and called himself the NBA's "go-to guy."

As it turned out, Denver didn't need the win after all; they locked up a spot in the playoffs before they got to San Antonio. In a twist of fate, it was the Spurs that ended up needing the win to have a shot at the division title, and Bavetta generously accommodated. In our pregame meeting, he talked about how important the game was to San Antonio and how meaningless it was to Denver, and that San Antonio was going to get the benefit of the calls that night. Armed with this inside information, I called Jack Concannon before the game and told him to bet the Spurs.

To no surprise, we won big. San Antonio blew Denver out of the building that evening, winning by 26 points. When Jack called me the following morning, he expressed amazement at the way an NBA game could be manipulated. Sobering, yes; amazing, no. That's how the game is played in the National Basketball Association.


WOOOOHOOOO.... Let's see Laker fans deny that LA gets EXTRA EXTRA slack with called games...

Coming straight from the HORSES MOUTH!!!

Id like to see any of you argue with Tim Donaghy

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WOOOOHOOOO.... Let's see Laker fans deny that LA gets EXTRA EXTRA slack with called games...

Coming straight from the HORSES MOUTH!!!

Id like to see any of you argue with Tim Donaghy

Are you old enough to remember how bad the officiating was in Boston during the 80's?

All-Star players do get the majority of the calls, no surprise there. Your boy Roy gets a lot of ticky tacks, too.

Don't hate, appreciate...

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Are you old enough to remember how bad the officiating was in Boston during the 80's?

All-Star players do get the majority of the calls, no surprise there. Your boy Roy gets a lot of ticky tacks, too.

Don't hate, appreciate...

he doesn't get KOBE calls though, and dude is every bit as talented as Kobe... so why shouldn't he??

See, you forget man....

Brandon Roy gets star player calls

Kevin Garnett gets star player calls...

Dwayne Wade gets star player calls...

Kobe Bryant gets star player + large market and revenue generating team calls....

Michael fucking Jordan didn't even get the calls Kobe gets....

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Celtics beat the Lakers in '08 didn't they?

Lakers haven't beat the Celtics since what? 87?

08 was the first time the Lakers and Celtics even faced since 87, so that's a terrible argument. Why is it the Lakers' fault that the Celtics were irrelevant for 20 years and couldn't make the Finals?

So how have the Lakers completely dominated?

You said it yourself they are 2-2 in Finals in the modern era... which is the last 25 years...

That isn't domination..

Uhhh did you miss that 20 year period where the Celtics were a joke and the Lakers won titles? It isn't the Lakers' fault that the Celtics didn't make the Finals for 21 years. The Lakers were the team of the 80's and the team of the 00's. They have been way more consistent than the Celtics since the late 80's.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Oh, and the Allen Iverson thing...

Bump has gone Bill O, Glen Beck and Sean Hannity on us. He's left out the next paragraph of that excerpt, which states that other officials LOVED Iverson, and in one game where an official brought his son to meet Iverson, that same official made sure Iverson had an insane scoring night.

He's also left out the fact that the Lakers/Kings fuck-ups were to extend the series, not decide it. If you examine Game 5, you'll find equal outrage for the Lakers. If they were trying to decide the series, why not hand the Lakers game 5 just in case your plan fails in game 6? Instead they hand the Kings game 5, the Lakers game 6, and game 7 was called right down the middle.

Finally - all the free throws in the 2000 Portland game... when you have a moron for a head coach who instructs his players to foul hard instead of giving up baskets late in games, a team is gonna shoot a whole fuckload of FT's in the 4th.

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08 was the first time the Lakers and Celtics even faced since 87, so that's a terrible argument. Why is it the Lakers' fault that the Celtics were irrelevant for 20 years and couldn't make the Finals?



Uhhh did you miss that 20 year period where the Celtics were a joke and the Lakers won titles? It isn't the Lakers' fault that the Celtics didn't make the Finals for 21 years. The Lakers were the team of the 80's and the team of the 00's. They have been way more consistent than the Celtics since the late 80's.

Ok, Celtics were horrible in the 80's and 90's

Lakers didn't dominate... the Bulls had that category and you can argue that the Pistons were more dominant as well...

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Oh, and the Allen Iverson thing...

Bump has gone Bill O, Glen Beck and Sean Hannity on us. He's left out the next paragraph of that excerpt, which states that other officials LOVED Iverson, and in one game where an official brought his son to meet Iverson, that same official made sure Iverson had an insane scoring night.

He's also left out the fact that the Lakers/Kings fuck-ups were to extend the series, not decide it. If you examine Game 5, you'll find equal outrage for the Lakers. If they were trying to decide the series, why not hand the Lakers game 5 just in case your plan fails in game 6? Instead they hand the Kings game 5, the Lakers game 6, and game 7 was called right down the middle.

Finally - all the free throws in the 2000 Portland game... when you have a moron for a head coach who instructs his players to foul hard instead of giving up baskets late in games, a team is gonna shoot a whole fuckload of FT's in the 4th.


I only left that part out because I didn't have to include it!!

Why? Because Kobe didn't have that working against him....

pretty simple math, Hill.

Kobe, favored 100% of the time...

Iverson, not so much....

advantage - Kobe

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He's also left out the fact that the Lakers/Kings fuck-ups were to extend the series, not decide it. If you examine Game 5, you'll find equal outrage for the Lakers. If they were trying to decide the series, why not hand the Lakers game 5 just in case your plan fails in game 6? Instead they hand the Kings game 5, the Lakers game 6, and game 7 was called right down the middle..


Worst officiated series, ever....

no justifying it.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Ok, Celtics were horrible in the 80's and 90's

Lakers didn't dominate... the Bulls had that category and you can argue that the Pistons were more dominant as well...

The Lakers have 9 titles and 15 conference championships since 1980. That's almost 1/3 of all titles won since 1980, and they appeared in 50% of all NBA Finals played as well.

When you have a three decade period, and one team completely dominates two of them, how did they not dominate that period?

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I only left that part out because I didn't have to include it!!

Why? Because Kobe didn't have that working against him....

pretty simple math, Hill.

Kobe, favored 100% of the time...

Iverson, not so much....

advantage - Kobe

Kobe's had it work against him plenty of times, especially in the aftermath of the Shaq stuff and during the rape case. What people like Bump forget is that Kobe was one of the most HATED athletes in the world and basically had to bring his image all the way back to where it is now. AI always got calls, especially around 2000 when he was flying into the lane like a bowling ball.

If you're a GM and you're saying you'd rather have Iverson than Kobe, there would be 31 other GM's saying "thanks moron!"

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Kobe's had it work against him plenty of times, especially in the aftermath of the Shaq stuff and during the rape case. What people like Bump forget is that Kobe was one of the most HATED athletes in the world and basically had to bring his image all the way back to where it is now. AI always got calls, especially around 2000 when he was flying into the lane like a bowling ball.

If you're a GM and you're saying you'd rather have Iverson than Kobe, there would be 31 other GM's saying "thanks moron!"

that's bullshit... Lakers are the most official pampered team ever...

You can't say AI gets even close to the pussy calls Kobe gets... Kobe is 6'6 and AI is 6'1 and AI has to get fucking hammered to get a call.. So I don't know what the hell you're talking about..

Hill, you are in denial about this whole Kobe shit... I know you have seen Iverson play more than a lot of times... I have seen him play.. I have seen Iverson take some fucking blow up elbows and not get a call.. And Iverson doesn't complain..!! Kobe will fucking cry like a PUSSY if a ref misses that patented touch foul.. 9 times out of 10..

It's almost like Kobe is saying "Come on REFFF!!!! This is part of the DEAL!!"

yes, every GM is saying "Thanks Moron" because they follow that up with "Thanks Moron, you just got a great NBA scorer who also gets EVERY call in the game"

it's all relative, Hill.

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Kenny the Jet called Carmelo for MVP, last night. I have to admit, he looks fit and determined. Question is....does he fit the NBA image like choir boy Lebron?..

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Kenny the Jet called Carmelo for MVP, last night. I have to admit, he looks fit and determined. Question is....does he fit the NBA image like choir boy Lebron?..

shit, I dont know if I would call Lebron a "choir boy" for the NBA... after his rant last year..

he is a bitch, no doubt... but not a choir boy....

And yea, Melo is going to do some things this season... He put up 18 in the 4th yesterday against Portland.. that is nothing to sneeze at.

[Sonny Cheeba]

Not even another triple double from Queen James could get them the victory the other day. :beer:

Cleveland still has way too many holes and I laughed my ass off when people thought a 385 lb Shaq would be their missing piece.

And damn, Carmelo looked possessed last night. Bump, WTF happened to Aldridge? I guess his hand was sore from signing that massive extension, because he was fucking invisible in that game.

EDIT: Cavs are still a top 3 team in the East, but they're not winning the title, not with that lineup from 1-5.

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Not even another triple double from Queen James could get them the victory the other day. :beer:

Cleveland still has way too many holes and I laughed my ass off when people thought a 385 lb Shaq would be their missing piece.

And damn, Carmelo looked possessed last night. Bump, WTF happened to Aldridge? I guess his hand was sore from signing that massive extension, because he was fucking invisible in that game.

EDIT: Cavs are still a top 3 team in the East, but they're not winning the title, not with that lineup from 1-5.

It was fucking ODEN man, if he hits those two FT's with 2 seconds left to play it's game.

Aldridge actaully played Melo well all game. I think he is just getting out the gate slow... Not even worried about him though... One thing you can tell already is that it doesn't matter if one main player has an off night... SOMEBODY is going to pick up the scoring.. That is evident.

Portland is going to give the West all they can handle.

[Sonny Cheeba]

Not even the FT man, he was 4/15 shooting last night. That's pathetic, I mean Roy had a rough night shooting too but at least he got to the line. And with the refs calling everything in sight (questionable calls on both ends every time down the floor) you gotta step up. Roy is their crunch time guy but Aldridge got big time $$$ so he's gotta play better.

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Not even the FT man, he was 4/15 shooting last night. That's pathetic, I mean Roy had a rough night shooting too but at least he got to the line. And with the refs calling everything in sight (questionable calls on both ends every time down the floor) you gotta step up. Roy is their crunch time guy but Aldridge got big time $$$ so he's gotta play better.

I'm not worried about Aldridge at all... that 18 footer will start droppin and when it does....................

[Doyers y Esleigher]

that's bullshit... Lakers are the most official pampered team ever...

You can't say AI gets even close to the pussy calls Kobe gets... Kobe is 6'6 and AI is 6'1 and AI has to get fucking hammered to get a call.. So I don't know what the hell you're talking about..

Hill, you are in denial about this whole Kobe shit... I know you have seen Iverson play more than a lot of times... I have seen him play.. I have seen Iverson take some fucking blow up elbows and not get a call.. And Iverson doesn't complain..!! Kobe will fucking cry like a PUSSY if a ref misses that patented touch foul.. 9 times out of 10..

It's almost like Kobe is saying "Come on REFFF!!!! This is part of the DEAL!!"

yes, every GM is saying "Thanks Moron" because they follow that up with "Thanks Moron, you just got a great NBA scorer who also gets EVERY call in the game"

it's all relative, Hill.

All players complain to the refs these days. Brandon Roy does that shit too. And you have floppy ass Fernandez on your team so don't talk about bitchyness.

Kobe is better than any player who's ever worn a Blazers uniform. Hurts, doesn't it?

Kobe is already a top 10 all time player. Hurts doesn't it?

AI isn't the all-world defender Kobe is. AI isn't as good a team mate either. Dude's been calling his own number since day one. He could never handle being on a team with talent. He's one of the toughest players in NBA history but I doubt he gets his team to the 2001 Finals if there'd been a single worthwhile Eastern Conference team. Chauncey for AI was an outright steal.

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Well, Lakers got owned by the Mavs....

[raiderdude69]

That they did.. Not the end of the world.. 80 more games to go.. It'll all shake out in the end..

[or24]

AI is not AI anymore. He shot around 40% and 27% from 3 last year with around 3 turnovers per. He's definitely lost a step too.

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still got love for AI

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Well, Lakers got owned by the Mavs....

You pay too much attention.

[Bump]

You pay too much attention.

I thought I was just stating the obvious lol

[Bump]

blazers lose 2, come bck and hand OKC their first loss and at home...

Oden outplays Durant, yep yep

[Jenny]

Oden sounds off . . . and his newfound intensity could be a big boost

By Jason Quick, The Oregonian
November 02, 2009, 10:15AM
OKLAHOMA CITY -- The most important development of the Trail Blazers' victory here Sunday evening took root... More>> (http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/11/oden_sounds_off_and_his_newfou.html)

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Whoa, hold the phone, you guys beat the THUNDER?

Congratulations!

[el boracho]

Well, Lakers got owned by the Mavs....

give them time to get Pau back and Ron to learn the triangle and its Game Over..

[Bump]

give them time to get Pau back and Ron to learn the triangle and its Game Over..


Ron already knows the triangle.... so that isn't a valid point.

[Bump]

Whoa, hold the phone, you guys beat the THUNDER?

Congratulations!

the Thunder are the most talented young team in the NBA (next to the Blazers, of course)

[Bump]

Oden sounds off . . . and his newfound intensity could be a big boost

By Jason Quick, The Oregonian
November 02, 2009, 10:15AM
OKLAHOMA CITY -- The most important development of the Trail Blazers' victory here Sunday evening took root... More>> (http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/11/oden_sounds_off_and_his_newfou.html)


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sent Durants shit packin....

[el boracho]

Ron already knows the triangle.... so that isn't a valid point.

nah man phil and the ron just stated the other day that hes still feeling his role on the court and in due time he will fit right in.A few games in isnt enough time to feel out the team and his role on it. Telling you man give it a month or so and they will clicking on all cyclinders.

[or24]

:bag: 0-4 probably tonight for me :nono:

[Doyers y Esleigher]

It takes some guys a full season to learn the triangle. Ron has a pretty high basketball IQ and a reduced role in the offense so I'm not as worried about him.

[Padrino]

[QUOTE=Bump;51368]the Thunder are the most talented young team in the NBA[QUOTE]

Jeff Green and Sefolosha (spl?) are superb defenders, and Durant and Westbrook are very talented on the offensive end. They're a big man away from contending. Good call, Bump...

[Doyers y Esleigher]

You sure "contending" is the right word? I think they'd be in the 40-range in win total with a big. They still don't have a bench and all the good teams in the west have depth.

[Padrino]

You sure "contending" is the right word? I think they'd be in the 40-range in win total with a big. They still don't have a bench and all the good teams in the west have depth.

Let me clarify. 'Contend' for a playoff spot, not a title...

[Padrino]

Lakers pulled out another OT win over Houston. Gasol is supposed to return Friday night. Heeeel yeah!..

[raiderdude69]

Yep, nice gutcheck win in Houston.. Almost gave me a fucking heart attack.. Let's hope Pau gets back soon, we definitely need the big fella back in there..

[Tió Nook Nook]

2011-2012 kings back in playoffs. i can smell it

[or24]

[QUOTE=Bump;51368]the Thunder are the most talented young team in the NBA[QUOTE]

Jeff Green and Sefolosha (spl?) are superb defenders, and Durant and Westbrook are very talented on the offensive end. They're a big man away from contending. Good call, Bump...
They have almost no perimeter shooting and overall their offense isn't really that impressive. They are athletic and play defense. Durant needs to be more effecient and Westbrook needs a lot of work on his shot. Jeff Green is not consistent enough for me but he does play defense.

[Bump]

[QUOTE=Tor;51787][QUOTE=Bump;51368]the Thunder are the most talented young team in the NBA
They have almost no perimeter shooting and overall their offense isn't really that impressive. They are athletic and play defense. Durant needs to be more effecient and Westbrook needs a lot of work on his shot. Jeff Green is not consistent enough for me but he does play defense.

Jeff Green is a beast..Westbrook needs a lot of work, not just his shot... He needs discipline.. Also, he needs to get guys involved more on offense. Part of the perimeter scoring is suffering because of him because he is so aggressive with the ball and he isn't moving it around like he should. I suppose that falls under discipline as well, though.

[or24]

Down the road, IMO, they could be a very good team. TONS of potential. Westbrook is very explosive and Durant's size and athleticism is crazy. If they develop their skills they could be dangerous. I'm just not sold they are a good team YET.

[Bump]

Down the road, IMO, they could be a very good team. TONS of potential. Westbrook is very explosive and Durant's size and athleticism is crazy. If they develop their skills they could be dangerous. I'm just not sold they are a good team YET.

I am.. they took the Lakeshow into OT at home... I know it is "only regular season"... some Laker fans will try to sell you that regular season games dont have to be won.........

but either way, they are a sleeper this year.. They can slip in @ #8 in the East easily IMO

[SONIC]

but either way, they are a sleeper this year.. They can slip in @ #8 in the East easily IMO

The Oklahoma City Thunder play in the Western Conference.

[Bump]

remind me to proofread my shit because Sonic is going to be all over that shit...

GO ANGELS!

[Padrino]

[QUOTE=Bump;51969]Thanks for the correction my dude![QUOTE]

I corrected it for you, :pug:...

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I am.. they took the Lakeshow into OT at home... I know it is "only regular season"... some Laker fans will try to sell you that regular season games dont have to be won.........

but either way, they are a sleeper this year.. They can slip in @ #8 in the East easily IMO

The Bobcats have beat the Lakers in OT like 3 or 4 times in the last few years. They were sure rippin' it up come playoff time, huh?

[Bump]

[QUOTE=Bump;51969]Thanks for the correction my dude![QUOTE]

I corrected it for you, :pug:...

Damn, I didn't want to have it out.... but at the expense of crushing Sonics shining moment I have to....

I knew the fucking Thunder were in the West... wtf... they are in the Blazer division.....

In fact, I had a freudian slip and called them the Sonics once... I believe it was on here....

So obviously I'm well aware of where they play....

And in addition fuck Sonic..

[Bump]

The Bobcats have beat the Lakers in OT like 3 or 4 times in the last few years. They were sure rippin' it up come playoff time, huh?

Hey, make sure you got a fresh tampon in, gonna be a bumpy ride for the Lakes in the west this year..

[raiderdude69]

For you Laker fans out there, NBA TV is showing a replay of game 7 of the 2000 WCF vs Portland at 6:30.. Greatest 4th quarter comeback in playoff history..

[Sonny Cheeba]

For you Laker fans out there, NBA TV is showing a replay of game 7 of the 2000 WCF vs Portland at 6:30.. Greatest 4th quarter comeback in playoff history..
I'm sure Bump will be glued to the TV for this one.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

It's hilarious to listen to Bump bitch about calls. The Blazers got away with so much shit in the lane in this games. They took every liberty with Shaq in this series. Portland didn't rebound and played awful defense. Dunleavy employed Hack A Shaq which was a cheap ass strategy and they deserved to be bit in the ass by it. The refs also call several close ones against the Lakers during the 4th quarter (the blocking foul on Kobe, Horry's charge, etc.) so this isn't blatant at all.

People love touting free throw numbers, but the Blazers sent the Lakers to the line. These weren't ticky tack fouls.

I never want to hear bitching about this series again. You lost, bitch.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Oh and Kobe hit some monster shots for a guy who did "nothing" when Shaq was on the team.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Wow, I forgot how many ugly ass shots the Blazers took in the 4th. How anyone could say the "refs" were the reason for this is beyond me. Bump, please, either stop being a homeristic Laker hater or stop posting dumb ass shit on this thread.

EDIT: Watching Sabonis hang off Shaq's back, then complain when the refs call a foul, is hilarious.

Man this brings back memories. Fuck Porkland.

EDIT: even further, for all the bitching about the Steve Smith foul, if he goes to the line and makes both, it's still a 2 point game and the Blazers are forced to foul. Definitely a nitpicky thing to blame.

[raiderdude69]

Yep, Portland missed at least 4 or 5 shots that literally went in and out.. And others from close in that were just bricks.. 12 straight misses in that 15-0 run... Sure, there were some shitty calls going both ways, but we won, Blazers choked.. We got the title, they didn't.. End of story..

[raiderdude69]

Shit gives me chills.. Still remember that game like it was yesterday, getting fucked up all day grilling carne asada, swimming in 95* heat, slamming beers on my back patio with my cousins and a couple buddies, Chick on the stereo blasting, 20" TV set up on the table outside.. We thought that fucker was over when that 3rd quarter was winding down.. Till BShaw happened.. Then the avalanche just kept rollin' from there..

One of many great, great memories in my Laker lifetime..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

The Lakers were on the receiving end of more bad calls than the Blazers were, and fouls were still being called against LA with under a minute left (and a goaltend against Shaq too). The idea that this was a fixed game is drivel for local sports media in Portland and toolbag fans who've never even been there.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

That win started maybe the best summer of my life. Fuck yeah. Summer 2000 in Los Angeles was out fucking standing. Lakers winning the title was like the jump off point.

[raiderdude69]

We went to the parade that year (and in 2001, also went back '87).. Great summer indeed.. Wore my Shaq jersey to Summer Sanitarium at the LA Coli, got FUCKED the fucked up, had a fuckin' blast.. Another great moment of that particular summer..

Fuck man, 9 1/2 years ago.. And to think, the Raiders STARTED their run of dominance in the AFC West that fall.. Seems like a million years ago..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

That summer was so kickass. I was 16 and finally got a car and after my first girlfriend and I had an UGLY crash out months before, I started seeing the first super hot girl I ever dated. Metallica played the Coliseum and to this day, I'll never forget the gnarly food fight that lasted over an hour, and the beer booth getting knocked over and everyone getting free beer. The next day, ECW wrestling ran their only show ever in Los Angeles at the Grand Olympic. There were a retarded amount of good punk shows. The fuckin Dodgers took their usual spot in 2nd place though... lol.

That game was the start of all of it. The Downtown LA revival began that summer too. For the first time, people my age could look in the mirror and say "I'm from LA and that's a good thing." 9 1/2 years later our local swagger is better than its ever been.

Bump is still waiting for that elusive first "fan-life" ring.

[Padrino]

B-Shaw's bank 3 started the comeback. It was all downhill from there. Then the epic alley-oop from Kobe to Shaq to seal the deal. I'm so glad my Dad passed down the Laker gene to me. That team has been a constant positive thing throughout a lot of lean years for me. Wish I could say the same about my Raiders, Dodgers and Kings. 1 out of 4 ain't bad, though. God knows they have more than picked up the slack for my other teams.

Btw, big shout out to my Kings. They actually resemble a hockey team this year. Could this be the year we get back into the playoffs and challenge? Heeeeel yeah.

It's just another perfect day...............I LOVE LA!..

[el boracho]

B-Shaw's bank 3 started the comeback. It was all downhill from there. Then the epic alley-oop from Kobe to Shaq to seal the deal. I'm so glad my Dad passed down the Laker gene to me. That team has been a constant positive thing throughout a lot of lean years for me. Wish I could say the same about my Raiders, Dodgers and Kings. 1 out of 4 ain't bad, though. God knows they have more than picked up the slack for my other teams.

Btw, big shout out to my Kings. They actually resemble a hockey team this year. Could this be the year we get back into the playoffs and challenge? Heeeeel yeah.

It's just another perfect day...............I LOVE LA!..

Feel you man...Kings are doin it right now lets hope they keep it up...

[Bump]

Oh and Kobe hit some monster shots for a guy who did "nothing" when Shaq was on the team.

I will never argue that the Blazers choked, however, the refs DID put their whistles in their pockets much earlier than they should have...

At which point anybody could have said "Oh well, should have cleaned the glass beter.. or...not hacked a Shaq.."

Whatever, basketball is a game of momentum... a few "missed" calls that pretty much puts shit out of reach and you are starting to realize that you are fighting a battle that can't be won..

How do you think the Kings felt? or Dwight Howard in the finals last year? Put yourself in their shoes for second.. Do you think these players, who have witnessed some of the travesties that took place with the Lakers and favorable calls, haven't felt this way?

Let's separate the Lakers success from your Kobe mancrush for one second, Hill...

No matter what argument you bring to the table.... No matter what spin you put on it...

The FACTS show that the Lakers without Kobe were a BETTER team during the 3 peat... Without SHAQ they might not even make the playoffs...Yes DURING the 3-peat when Shaq was absent they were barely winning at a 50% clip...

Let's not bring up AFTER the Shaq tenure.... We all know how many turns it took to finally get it right.. Kobe needed the BEST help the NBA could offer... that alone makes him a second tier superstar when you compare him to some other champions.

So you can say "Ohhhh. well who cares that SHAQ battered the frontcourt for 3 1/2 quarters and maligned the D to collapse EVERY play"

"Who cares that this set Kobe up to hit a couple jumpers in clutch time??"

"Who cares that ANY 2 guard could have hammered the nail after being set up so lovely by the most physically dominant player in NBA history"

none of that matters.... it's just Kobes token jumpshot...

Kobe is one of the most overrated players in the history of the NBA...

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I'd reply to this post, but I've realized you have a complete aversion to facts when it comes to basketball so there really is no point. Almost everything you posted is either incorrect or insane, and ignores all previous arguments where a lot of the myths you purport were already dispelled.

Find me one player that won a championship without marquee talent around him. It has never happened in the entire modern era of NBA basketball. EVER. I love how you talk about Dwight Howard like the refs did him and not Pau Gasol. Hell, the refs did everything they could to hand game 4 to the Magic and the Lakers still won.

Lakers were better WITHOUT Kobe? Okay dude, you are weird and obsessed and it skews your shit too much. This is why you could never be an objective sports commentator - when you don't like a team or player, you come up with some insane way of smearing them instead of giving the proper credit. You do it with the Yankees and you do it with Kobe/the Lakers.

[Bump]

Hold the fuck up.....

Look at what I said.....

During the 3peat.... the Lakers winning percentage was BETTER without Kobe than it was without Shaq.... SIGNIFICANTLY.....

That cannot be disproven....

In fact during the 3 peat era... the Lakers had a collectively better winning percentage with a Kobe-less lineup than they did overall...

And we aren't talking a sample size of 10 games Kobe missed 40 some odd games over that 3 year period...Kobe refused to feed the offense through Shaq..... it should have been fed through Shaq at ALL times and Kobe deviated many, many times...

Kobe has always been concerned with his own legacy.. He wanted to be the man rather than concede.. Shaq was the man bottom line. Kobe was second fiddle.... there is no argument...

And in the end, Kobes legacy still falls short... in his own era arguably.

[Bump]

Hold the fuck up.....

Look at what I said.....

During the 3peat.... the Lakers winning percentage was BETTER without Kobe than it was without Shaq.... SIGNIFICANTLY.....

That cannot be disproven....

In fact during the 3 peat era... the Lakers had a collectively better winning percentage with a Kobe-less lineup than they did overall...

And we aren't talking a sample size of 10 games Kobe missed 40 some odd games over that 3 year period...Kobe refused to feed the offense through Shaq..... it should have been fed through Shaq at ALL times and Kobe deviated many, many times...

Kobe has always been concerned with his own legacy.. He wanted to be the man rather than concede.. Shaq was the man bottom line. Kobe was second fiddle.... there is no argument...

And in the end, Kobes legacy still falls short... in his own era arguably.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Shaq had to be benched in the final minutes of games because teams were just fouling and sending him to the line. They had to stop doing it because Phil would pull Shaq and Kobe would take over the game. The Lakers won a bunch of games during the 3peat (regular season, playoff, and Finals games) because of Kobe in the 4th.

[Bump]

also, in further OKC Thunder progressions they routed probably the deepest team in the league today..

They are going to be a problem.. I will reiterate it again lol..

[raiderdude69]

Saw that score in the OKC game.. DAYUM.. They killed Orlando.. Those motherfuckers got some talent for damn sure.. The former Sonic fanbase up here is HATIN' life.. They got to see year one of Durant and Green then see them draft Westbrook and still have a good young team to build on, and that cocksucker bandit Clayton Bennett stole the team away ..

I'm not even a Sonic fan, but I sure loved being able to watch my Lakers live twice a year up here, and Bennett should be strung up behind the bumper of a Chevy and dragged through downtown Seattle till his head falls off, period.. Just a sad, sad thing there ain't NBA ball up here any longer..

[Tió Nook Nook]

2 in a row for the kings!

[Padrino]

Bangin' with Mbenga...

[el boracho]

Bangin' with Mbenga...

Mbenga and Powell steppin up....

its Game over when Pau and Bynum get healthy...

[Bump]

Mbenga and Powell steppin up....

its Game over when Pau and Bynum get healthy...

Lakers are going to fail.... expectations are too great because of the moves they made this year.

[Padrino]

Lakers are going to fail.... expectations are too great because of the moves they made this year.

Lol. We're 6 - 1 (FAILURE!), and Pau hasn't played yet. What do you base this prediction on?..

[Corndog]

Lol. We're 6 - 1 (FAILURE!), and Pau hasn't played yet. What do you base this prediction on?..

Wishful thinking.

[Bump]

Lol. We're 6 - 1 (FAILURE!), and Pau hasn't played yet. What do you base this prediction on?..


People think "OMG JUST IMAGINE WHEN WE GET PAU BACK!!!!!"

well, it looks good on paper... but last year everybody thought it was amazing have two 7 footers next to each other but it was statistically proven that the Lakers were worse with Bynum and Gasol on the floor together..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Bynum and Gasol haven't spent enough time on the floor together, but if that doesn't work out then all it does is lengthen the bench.

[English Guru]

Lakers are going to fail.... expectations are too great because of the moves they made this year.
Once again you are wrong. Go eat milk and cookie.

[Bump]

Much of the credit for the steamrolling goes to Greg Oden who is slowly coming to the realization that nobody without a huge, athletic, active center can stop him.

http://www.blazersedge.com/

Pardon the homerism..... But it is so accurate...

The Oden "BUST" retractions will be flying in very, very soon.....

[Padrino]

http://www.blazersedge.com/

Pardon the homerism..... But it is so accurate...

The Oden "BUST" retractions will be flying in very, very soon.....

Bynum vs Oden will be a great matchup for years to come (barring injury, of course). Fyi, I never considered Oden a bust. That injury he suffered before his rookie year was terrible...

[Padrino]

My Lakers better bring their 'A' game tonight. The Suns are scorching.

Go Lakeshow!..

[Bump]

Bynum vs Oden will be a great matchup for years to come (barring injury, of course). Fyi, I never considered Oden a bust. That injury he suffered before his rookie year was terrible...

yea man, I really can't wait to see the Oden/Bynum matchup!!! It's a good month before the Blazers even see the Lakers... But I'm really looking forward to it.

[Don]

LETS GO WARRIORS!!

lmao

[Skern]

LETS GO WARRIORS!!

lmao

What up Don Dizzle? A wasn't it you that once posted on a NBA thread, a dog with his tail between his legs? :roflmao

[raiderdude69]

Nice beatdown of the Suns tonight by the Lakeshow..

And GODDAMN, Shannon Brown has got hops for days.. Motherfucker..


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[Don]

What up Don Dizzle? A wasn't it you that once posted on a NBA thread, a dog with his tail between his legs? :roflmao

for sure dawg..i remember that ish..

heres don nelson's new 2009 concept of "small ball"

http://www.smalldogbigdogpictures.com/dog-picture-small-dog-poodle-ball-FlyNutAA-pic.jpg

[Bump]

Nice beatdown of the Suns tonight by the Lakeshow..

And GODDAMN, Shannon Brown has got hops for days.. Motherfucker..


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I know for sure the Suns won't hold up....

the 7 second offense just cannot work.. And Channing Frye is the softest C ever...

[Padrino]

Nice beatdown of the Suns tonight by the Lakeshow..

And GODDAMN, Shannon Brown has got hops for days.. Motherfucker..


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:clap:

We led from start to finish. Granted, it was the 2nd leg of a back-to-back for the Suns. Bynum is a star.

That dunk by Shannon was spectacular! God's distribution of athletic ability leaves a lot to be desired.

Now if only we could shoot foul shots and get Artest to make those wide open 3's tonight in Denver.

Go Lakers!..

[raiderdude69]

Should be a good one Jeff.. Game on ESPN so I'll be able to catch it at the bar if necessary.. Denver's tough, but if we play our game, get Bynum involved as usual, and of course Kobe, we should get it done..

[Bump]

I can't wait to see the Bynum/Oden matchup... I know I am a homer but Oden is a better talent than Bynum and Oden has to make a statement... that game just can't come fast enough.

[raiderdude69]

Jan 8th Bump.. Can't wait either.. Bynum and Oden SHOULD be a classic matchup for years, esp if both can stay away from the injury bug..

[Padrino]

I can't wait to see the Bynum/Oden matchup... I know I am a homer but Oden is a better talent than Bynum and Oden has to make a statement... that game just can't come fast enough.


Let's break this down by facets:

Rebounding - Tie

Scoring - Bynum

Blocks - Oden

Free throws - Bynum

Shooting out side the lane - Bynum

Post moves (back to basket) - Bynum

Jump balls - Oden

Thoughts...

[Bump]

Let's break this down by facets:

Rebounding - Tie

Scoring - Bynum

Blocks - Oden

Free throws - Bynum

Shooting out side the lane - Bynum

Post moves (back to basket) - Bynum

Jump balls - Oden

Thoughts...


one big head to head stat you left out

Minutes Per Game

Oden - 22

Bynum - 40

Rebounds - definitely goes to Oden

[Padrino]

one big head to head stat you left out

Minutes Per Game

Oden - 22

Bynum - 40

Rebounds - definitely goes to Oden

Bynum has to share boards with Odom and Gasol, so it's hard to tell.

Why isn't Odem playing more minutes? Foul trouble? If so, that's on him...

[Bump]

Bynum has to share boards with Odom and Gasol, so it's hard to tell.

Why isn't Odem playing more minutes? Foul trouble? If so, that's on him...

His fouls have gone down considerably.... the reason he plays less minutes is because we have Joel Pryz... who can also grab 10 boards in 15 minutes...

Keeps Oden fresh and ready to dominate the middle in the 4th...Make no mistake, if Nate played him 40 minutes his numbers would easily eclipse Bynums..

[raiderdude69]

Well that was a fugly game.. Got our asses SMOKED n Dumbver.. Oh fucking well, shit happens..

[Lil Joker]

Fuck lakers just got punched in the mouth by denver...

[Tió Nook Nook]

Kings win and lakers lose on the same night. When was the last time that shit happened?
Fuck yeah above .500

[Tió Nook Nook]

oh yeah, anthony randolph can suck jason thompson's dick.
Over his last five games (four of them wins), JT is averaging 20.2 points, 11.6 rebounds, shooting 50% from the field and making 86% from the free throw line

[Bump]

oh yeah, anthony randolph can suck jason thompson's dick.
Over his last five games (four of them wins), JT is averaging 20.2 points, 11.6 rebounds, shooting 50% from the field and making 86% from the free throw line

Jason Thompson can suck Greg Odens dick.

[Tió Nook Nook]

gotta see if oden's old ass can last a season first

http://i37.tinypic.com/2wdtswh.jpg

[Bump]

http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2008/08/RipCity2

Six straight for the Blazers... 4 straight on the road....

the West will concede to RIP FUCKIN CITY

[or24]

so who are the top prospects projected for next years draft? lol

[Sonny Cheeba]

I wanna give Greg Oden a reach-around sooooo bad OMFG.
:pug: :pug: :pug:

[Skern]

for sure dawg..i remember that ish..

heres don nelson's new 2009 concept of "small ball"

http://www.smalldogbigdogpictures.com/dog-picture-small-dog-poodle-ball-FlyNutAA-pic.jpg

LOL

[Lil Joker]

:pug: :pug: :pug:

:laugh::laugh:

[Bump]

:pug: :pug: :pug:

Don't worry homie... You will fess up soon enough that you were wrong declaring Oden a bust...

Denial is a bitch..

[Jenny]

Bump, what do you think about Outlaw? Big deal or no?

[Bump]

Bump, what do you think about Outlaw? Big deal or no?
Not really worried about it.... Just means more minutes for Webster/Rudy

But Outlaw was nice in certain situations because he could give an opposing lineup that went big nightmares when he was plugged in @ the #4

and he can get that shot off on anybody in the league, so he was a nice luxury to have when the shot clock was running out..

But, this team is deep... Cunningham is a nice rookie that has some nice range for a power forward.. He might get more minutes behind Aldridge..

I really dont feel comfortable with Juwan Howard...

[Tió Nook Nook]

Good job tonight, rockets! LOL

[Bump]

Good job tonight, rockets! LOL

beat me to the punch!

[Lil Joker]

Fuck lakers losing two in a row...but it's only November

[Tió Nook Nook]

i can't wait for the kings and lakers matchup!!

[Bump]

Yea man, after seeing Houston beat them at home... I really can't wait to see the Blazers play the Lakers

don't sleep on Houston though, they are actually playing better without Yao and McGrady

[Tió Nook Nook]

Kings got in Houston's ass a couple days ago. Fuck them.

There are rumors of Kings trading Kenny Thomas (basically 9 million rotting on the bench) for Emeka Okafor.
Okafor is def. overpaid for what he is, but kings have been doing very good on the glass this season, and Okafor is a upgrade both on the glass and defensively over Hawes for sure.
Kings have the cap space and should pull the trigger on the trade

[Bump]

Kings got in Houston's ass a couple days ago. Fuck them.

There are rumors of Kings trading Kenny Thomas (basically 9 million rotting on the bench) for Emeka Okafor.
Okafor is def. overpaid for what he is, but kings have been doing very good on the glass this season, and Okafor is a upgrade both on the glass and defensively over Hawes for sure.
Kings have the cap space and should pull the trigger on the trade

Okafor aint gonna do shit... he is soft... Oden ate his food...

Looking forward to Oden eating Thompsons food, too bad I gotta wait a month... :D

[Tió Nook Nook]

JT is a beast on the offensive glass. he got 9 O boards against houston! should be a great matchup even though JT is a 4 and Olden is a 5

[Bump]

JT is a beast on the offensive glass. he got 9 O boards against houston! should be a great matchup even though JT is a 4 and Olden is a 5

Houston has an xtremely weak frontcourt...

He wont clean up the glass against Portland like that...

[ThanksMan]

Go Warriors!

[Tió Nook Nook]

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Ariza's reaction is priceless, like "come on dog, really? the fuck are you, 5 years old or some shit?"

[Tooz72]

Warriors trade S.Jackon/Law for Raja Bell/Radmanovic

http://www.seattlepi.com/scorecard/nbanews.asp?articleID=267988

[Jenny]

Not really worried about it.... Just means more minutes for Webster/Rudy

But Outlaw was nice in certain situations because he could give an opposing lineup that went big nightmares when he was plugged in @ the #4

and he can get that shot off on anybody in the league, so he was a nice luxury to have when the shot clock was running out..

But, this team is deep... Cunningham is a nice rookie that has some nice range for a power forward.. He might get more minutes behind Aldridge..

I really dont feel comfortable with Juwan Howard...

Yeah, true. It's not like it's a season-ending injury either.

Don't really know much about Howard, except that he's kinda old and is only contracted for one season, I think.

[Tió Nook Nook]

seems like dubs got robbed in that trade. wonder how much cap they save tho, if any?

[Bump]

Poor Raja Bell.... Went from the toilet to hell..

[Don]

stack had to go...next up Monta Ellis

[Padrino]

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Ariza's reaction is priceless, like "come on dog, really? the fuck are you, 5 years old or some shit?"


I wish Ariza was still a Laker. Artest is a big dumb animal.


Attn Laker haters: Small/quick point guards give us fits, along with bigs who can shoot the 3-ball. Don't read too much into last night's loss...

[Bump]

I wish Ariza was still a Laker. Artest is a big dumb animal.


Attn Laker haters: Small/quick point guards give us fits, along with bigs who can shoot the 3-ball. Don't read too much into last night's loss...


Well, the Nuggets dont have either... lol... didnt stop them from blowing you guys out.

[Miklo]

seems like dubs got robbed in that trade. wonder how much cap they save tho, if any?

Not even. Getting rid of Jackson for nothing would have been a great trade.

Instead they got Raja Bell, a decent defender and shooter who can play efficiently in far less time than Jax got, and his contract expires this year. Radmonovic, he ain't that great, but he's a good shooting big who can stretch the court, although he isn't a dynamic player like Nelly usually likes. And his contract expires this year unless he exercises his player option I believe.

More expirers for the Dubs, so they can make the fans excited that they might actually make a move in the offseason, only to dump them all and waste it on some shitty players that add nothing to the roster.

And I agree with Don, Nelly is showcasing Monta right now to increase his value so he can dump him too.

If we could get rid of Nelly, too, then I might actually think the Warriors were serious about becoming some sort of legitimate franchise.

And that Artest/Ariza video is hilarious. Artest just got a + in my book.

[Miklo]

I wish Ariza was still a Laker. Artest is a big dumb animal.


Attn Laker haters: Small/quick point guards give us fits, along with bigs who can shoot the 3-ball. Don't read too much into last night's loss...

Counterpoint:

See Orlando Magic.

(Jameer Nelson/Rafer Alston, Rashard Lewis/Turkoglu).

[Bump]

Not even. Getting rid of Jackson for nothing would have been a great trade.

Instead they got Raja Bell, a decent defender and shooter who can play efficiently in far less time than Jax got, and his contract expires this year. Radmonovic, he ain't that great, but he's a good shooting big who can stretch the court, although he isn't a dynamic player like Nelly usually likes. And his contract expires this year unless he exercises his player option I believe.

More expirers for the Dubs, so they can make the fans excited that they might actually make a move in the offseason, only to dump them all and waste it on some shitty players that add nothing to the roster.

And I agree with Don, Nelly is showcasing Monta right now to increase his value so he can dump him too.

If we could get rid of Nelly, too, then I might actually think the Warriors were serious about becoming some sort of legitimate franchise.

And that Artest/Ariza video is hilarious. Artest just got a + in my book.

lol, it would be funny to see the Warriors try and make a stab at Lebron...

it would be like watching a geek at the bar buy drinks for a hot bitch all night while she gets him worked over and thinking he is going to get lucky.... then he turns his back and she is ghost..

[Padrino]

Well, the Nuggets dont have either... lol... didnt stop them from blowing you guys out.


2nd night of a back to back...

[Padrino]

Counterpoint:

See Orlando Magic.

(Jameer Nelson/Rafer Alston, Rashard Lewis/Turkoglu).

Rong. Nelson was fresh off injury and Alston is now where near as quick as Brooks or Lawson. Also, Lewis and Turkoglu are forwards. When I said 'bigs' I meant C's...

[Bump]

2nd night of a back to back...

excuses, do championship teams make excuses?

[Miklo]

lol, it would be funny to see the Warriors try and make a stab at Lebron...

it would be like watching a geek at the bar buy drinks for a hot bitch all night while she gets him worked over and thinking he is going to get lucky.... then he turns his back and she is ghost..

It'd be funny to see the Warriors try and take a stab at any of the big-name free agents this offseason. But then Cohan's asshole would pucker right up and he'd refuse to offer them anything more than the vet minimum.

[Bump]

fuck the officials... they fucking made this very easy for the Hawks...

4 out of 5 on the road is great regardless.. but they had this game and the refs just didnt let them fucking play... stupid fucking calls... how do you call 5 fucking fouls in OT on the Blazers????

un fucking real...

and it wasnt like the Hawks were on top of shit... Joe Johnson scored 33 and needed to shoot the ball 33 times to get it... Ridiculous..

[Tooz72]

Warriors lose Azubuike for the year... :nono:

[Padrino]

excuses, do championship teams make excuses?

I said the same thing about the Suns last week. It's a valid reason...

[Bump]

Blazers handled business against the Pistons at home last night...

Scary game, definitely not a confidence booster like it appeared to be in the 3rd... Rip City almost squandered a 20 point lead. But held on to win.

Nate needs to move Roy back to the 2 and scrap this bullshit 3 guard lineup... Roy clearly is not comfortable in his role. He needs to be able to play his game and Miller has to follow suit, not vice versa.

[Padrino]

Tonight is the return of Pau Gasol. Let's roll.

GO LAKESHOW!..

[el boracho]

Tonight is the return of Pau Gasol. Let's roll.

GO LAKESHOW!..

I really think this Gasol injury had more to do with him taking a little rest from Bball. Gasol was ballin the whole offseason and im sure he needed some time off.

Go Lakes!!!

[Padrino]

I really think this Gasol injury had more to do with him taking a little rest from Bball. Gasol was ballin the whole offseason and im sure he needed some time off.

Go Lakes!!!


I agree. It was probably more of a resting period.

Pau looked great last night. He didn't miss a beat...

[el boracho]

I agree. It was probably more of a resting period.

Pau looked great last night. He didn't miss a beat...

Yes he did. Team is starting to look good.

[SONIC]

THE CLIPPERS DO NOT BELONG IN L.A.

Tonight, while the Clips are hosting the Nuggets, the arena is a fucking ghost town. Even with the circumstances with the SuperSonics & the city of Seattle, moving the Clippers away would've made a lot more sense. Seattle was into their Sonics more than the people in L.A. are to the Clips.

Fuck the "LOS ANGELES" Clippers.

[Bump]

Blazers laid a fucking egg last night against the Warriors.... Somehow I knew they were going to lose that game.

[Don]

THE CLIPPERS DO NOT BELONG IN L.A.

Tonight, while the Clips are hosting the Nuggets, the arena is a fucking ghost town. Even with the circumstances with the SuperSonics & the city of Seattle, moving the Clippers away would've made a lot more sense. Seattle was into their Sonics more than the people in L.A. are to the Clips.

Fuck the "LOS ANGELES" Clippers.

Yeah they belong in a shit hole like New Jersey, or somethin

[Don]

Blazers laid a fucking egg last night against the Warriors.... Somehow I knew they were going to lose that game.

LMAOOOO...sure ya did, Bump..sure ya did...

[Bump]

LMAOOOO...sure ya did, Bump..sure ya did...

I did....believe me... you think I wouldn't have been talking a ton of trash on here if I wasn't reserved??? I knew this was a trap game.

[raiderdude69]

Blazers laid a fucking egg last night against the Warriors.... Somehow I knew they were going to lose that game.

Crazy how the NBA is huh? How else you explain the Nuggs cornholing my Lakers last week and then come right back and LOSE to the pathetic Clips last night.. I was watching that game at the bar and couldn't believe the Clips just kept making shots and the Nuggets kept sucking..

And damn, watch out for the former Sonics.. OK City is playing some damn good ball.. Lakers better not sleep on those fucks tomorrow night..

[raiderdude69]

THE CLIPPERS DO NOT BELONG IN L.A.

Tonight, while the Clips are hosting the Nuggets, the arena is a fucking ghost town. Even with the circumstances with the SuperSonics & the city of Seattle, moving the Clippers away would've made a lot more sense. Seattle was into their Sonics more than the people in L.A. are to the Clips.

Fuck the "LOS ANGELES" Clippers.

Agree somewhat.. Clippers have always been terrible and being from SoCal I still cannot believe anyone down there could really be a Clip fan when you got the Lakers in town.. But hey, to each his own..

And yes, the people of Seattle are still pissed about the Sonics, especially with the talent really showing through on that franchise now.. Durant COULDA been a fucking icon up here.. Main reason they're gone? Clayton Bennett is a fucking thief and a liar.. Even though I'm not a Sonic fan in the least, it still sucks ballsacks from hell that he took this team away.. Granted, the city of Seattle and the powers that be waited till it was too late to do anything about it, but his intention from the get go was to move that team.. 41 years of history gone kaput.. If Bennett ever stepped foot back in town, he'd be shot on sight I'm sure..

[Bump]

Crazy how the NBA is huh? How else you explain the Nuggs cornholing my Lakers last week and then come right back and LOSE to the pathetic Clips last night.. I was watching that game at the bar and couldn't believe the Clips just kept making shots and the Nuggets kept sucking..

And damn, watch out for the former Sonics.. OK City is playing some damn good ball.. Lakers better not sleep on those fucks tomorrow night..

Its going to happen...I knew they were going to lose that game... And honestly, watching them play I am starting to be concerned with the team.. Roy is looking lost with the changes all of a sudden.

[Bump]

Well, Blazers lose to GS and come back last night to stomp the shit out of a bad Minny team..

Moved Roy back to the 2 and Miller to the bench.. Martell starts @ the 3..

Things looked so much better...

Oden is an absolute monster...

When Batum and Outlaw come back, shit will be good..

[Padrino]

Bynum had 25 and 9, in less that 30 minutes. Can't wait to take on some tougher competition...

[Bump]

Bulls vs. Blazers tonight... HOLLA

[chitown]

Go Bulls!!!!

[Bump]

Go Bulls!!!!

Not tonight Brah!

[Bump]

Paging Buckwild..... Paging Buckwild.....

Let's say this together....

Greg

Oden

Is

Not

A

Bust

[Sonny Cheeba]

Oden is playing well so far but I wanna see him hold up for the whole season. Also if I'm not mistaken Blazers have yet to play the Lakers, Suns, Mavericks, Celtics, Cavs, Magic, and still have tough games against Denver and Utah.

[Bump]

Oden is playing well so far but I wanna see him hold up for the whole season. Also if I'm not mistaken Blazers have yet to play the Lakers, Suns, Mavericks, Celtics, Cavs, Magic, and still have tough games against Denver and Utah.


It dont matter man, they still won 4 out of 5 during a rough road trip.. They worked out their line up..

This team is still off to their best start in 10 years and is on pace to better their 53 win mark from last season...

I don't see any reason to think why they can't beat any of those teams right now..

They did beat the Spurs and Thunder. They lost a fucking grueling OT game in Atlanta which was the last game (figures) of that 5 game road trip... And there were some VERY questionable calls in that game..

And they beat a pretty scrappy Bulls team last night.

[chitown]

Not tonight Brah!

That was for sure by the 4th quarter. Bulls were playing like it was a shoot around.

[or24]

Newsflash to anyone playing boston: go at kevin garnett. 1 on 1 he doesnt stop anyone.

[or24]

Oden is terrible on offense. But every team in the nba should be drooling over his defense, rebounding, and potential

[Bump]

Oden is terrible on offense. But every team in the nba should be drooling over his defense, rebounding, and potential

terrible on offense??

#2 in FG% behind Howard @ 62% , he is one of the league leaders in true shooting perecentage and shoots around 73% from the line for a 7 footer...

yea, real terrible lol

[Bump]

So the Nets are in Portland, and still winless...

I hope this isn't a fucking Golden State Warriors game 2.0

I will bust the windows out in my house...

[Padrino]

So the Nets are in Portland, and still winless...

I hope this isn't a fucking Golden State Warriors game 2.0

I will bust the windows out in my house...


I think you guys are safe tonight, lol...

[Bump]

I think you guys are safe tonight, lol...

Nets get Devin Harris and Courtney Lee back tonight... Nets are going to get that first win eventually... Hope we can escape.

[raiderdude69]

^^ We got 'em on Sunday night.. HOPEFULLY shouldn't be a problem, but you never know in the NBA...

[Padrino]

"Depending on the matchup, we have to go our advantages, and we have so many it's hard to focus on one or two," Pau Gasol, who grabbed 16 rebounds, told reporters.
"Our second unit has to do a better job of playing together and helping us any way they can."...

[or24]

God I hate Wilson Chandler. He has the iq of a rock and Jordan hill has more range than him...

[Tió Nook Nook]

kings are rolling!

[Bump]

kings are rolling!

they need a win badly

[Bump]

Blazers beat the Nets, whooshhh... Thank God thats over with...

I'd hate to be the team that has to play the Nets next... as long as they are winless, everybody is gonna dread playing them lol

[Tió Nook Nook]

kings play them on sat. i think that is their next opponent.
it's a home game, kings are 6-2 at home now i believe?

[Bump]

kings play them on sat. i think that is their next opponent.
it's a home game, kings are 6-2 at home now i believe?

If they are 6-2 at home, that would make them 0-6 on the road... *shivers*

[Bump]

Another mind boggling loss to a lesser team... Blazers are confusing sometimes

[Tió Nook Nook]

If they are 6-2 at home, that would make them 0-6 on the road... *shivers*

ha, their one road win is against the jazz.

[Bump]

ha, their one road win is against the jazz.

Blazers play the Jazz in Utah tonite... shit is a must win

[yayarea_raider]

Warriors/Lakers tonight. Lakers 127 Warriors 88

[Bump]

Blazers are in trouble...

Batum being out has hurt this team and it's ability to play perimeter D severely.. And losing Outlaw off the bench isn't helping much either..

And I really wish Aldridge would play some D, sometime.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Kobe...

[Padrino]

Don't forget Fisher's big 3 the previous possession. He had a big offensive rebound late in the 4th as well.

Hope Pau's eye is alright. We stole that one, but I'll take it.

GO LAKESHOW!..

[el boracho]

that laker/heat game was ridiculous....Dont know what to say about Kobe anymore...I think he will go down as one of the most clutch players in the history of the league...

[Doyers y Esleigher]

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-31716-LA-Sports-Examiner~y2009m12d5-Circus-shot-rewrites-headlines-for-Bryant-Lakers

[raiderdude69]

Don't forget Fisher's big 3 the previous possession. He had a big offensive rebound late in the 4th as well.

Hope Pau's eye is alright. We stole that one, but I'll take it.

GO LAKESHOW!..

No shit.. Without Fish's 3, we don't even have a chance at the end.. Dude's clutch as fuck, not Kobe clutch, but a damn good 2nd banana clutch motherfucker to have on the court late.. Dude can suck gigantic ballsack for 47 minutes, but comes up huge when it counts..

Unfuckingbelievable how Kobe won that motherfucker though.. Lucky? Sure as shit, but yeah, I'll take it all day fucking long..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Fisher's sunk more big shots than Jerry West.

[Bump]

Oden goes down with an injury, opposite knee...

this season is a fuckin nightmare....

Batum first, Outlaw next.... THEN McMillan blows out his achilles in a practice... now Oden...

un fuckin real.

[Tió Nook Nook]

gotta see if oden's old ass can last a season first


Hey bump, remember this from a couple weeks ago?

[Bump]

Hey bump, remember this from a couple weeks ago?

stfu

[Padrino]

Sorry to hear about Oden. Some dudes can't catch a break. I hope Bynum doesn't have a relapse...

[Bump]

Sorry to hear about Oden. Some dudes can't catch a break. I hope Bynum doesn't have a relapse...

Yea, I feel bad for the big dude...

He can't catch a break.. he was starting to turn the corner this season big time.

[Bump]

Now Rudy Fernandez out 5-6 weeks.... unbelievable...

The Blazers are unbelievably banged up

[Jenny]

Now Rudy Fernandez out 5-6 weeks.... unbelievable...

The Blazers are unbelievably banged up

Ugh, I know! What's going on??? :nono:

[Padrino]

Ugh, I know! What's going on??? :nono:


The curse of Corny continues...

[Corndog]

:cdog: fuck the Blazers.

[Padrino]

:cdog: fuck the Blazers.

:clap:...

[Jenny]

:cdog: fuck the Blazers.

:clap:...

:chair:

[or24]

Blazers lost to my sorry ass knicks lol nice job

[Doyers y Esleigher]

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[Tió Nook Nook]

yeah yeah yeah. LAL got their asses whooped by cleveland, they suck against teams with winning records, and needed double overtime to beat a team whose 5 starters average age is under 22.
I smell a championship for them for sure :rolleyes:

[Bump]

That Cleveland game told a lot..And the Sac game showed even more... if you play basketball for 48 minutes you can beat the Lakers.

[el boracho]

That Cleveland game told a lot..And the Sac game showed even more... if you play basketball for 48 minutes you can beat the Lakers.

they cant win them all. Cant expect them to go undefeated all season long. They are the best team in the league and they will be beat on ocassion.

[Bump]

They are the best team in the league and they will be beat on ocassion.

Ummmmmm, I think the Celtics would beg to differ

Bottom line... The Lakers have had the benefit of playing more home games (19) over the first 29 which is significantly more than 90% of the league... and a weak schedule to boot..

They have looked beatable against above average competition..

[Bump]

the average home games for the rest of the NBA 14.7

Lakers have had 19............

** I skewed the number a bit because there a couple teams that have only played 28 games and one who played 27..

the actual number was 14.4

[Doyers y Esleigher]

yeah yeah yeah. LAL got their asses whooped by cleveland, they suck against teams with winning records, and needed double overtime to beat a team whose 5 starters average age is under 22.
I smell a championship for them for sure :rolleyes:

You act like the Kings are the only team that's played the Lakers close. Hell dude, I went to Memphis last year and watched the fucking Grizzlies battle them to the wire (Kobe had to hit some big shots late in similar fashion). The fact that bad teams play the Lakers close is literally meaningless, as it was the same last year and the year before and look at the final results: a conference crown and an NBA title. In a 7 game series, a team like Sacramento would look fucking D-league against LA.

I know you small market, shit team fans love to nitpick the little things because little things are bigger deals when your team is good an average of 2 of every 10 years.

Notice how for any other team, the fact that they won the title last year would still mean bragging rights. The Lakers are still better than your shitty team and your only shit talk is "you might not be the best team in the league... so take that!" You still lose.

[Tió Nook Nook]

I know it's nit-picking. Fact of the matter is, kings had the game won and they couldn't close it out. thats why they aren't winning and probably won't make the playoffs this year.

i just find it funny that all the laker fans were celebrating like crazy after beating a shit team like the teams, as if they werent supposed to win that game anyway

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Of course they were celebrating, they attended the game live and probably had shit talked to them for 4 quarters and 2 OT's. You know Kings fans were chirping when they had the lead in OT.

[Tió Nook Nook]

crowd was probably 60% kings fans, 40% laker fans, if not 50-50. it's just funny they were quiet as hell for the whole time then emerged to talk shit once kobe turned it way the fuck on in double OT.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

crowd was probably 60% kings fans, 40% laker fans, if not 50-50. it's just funny they were quiet as hell for the whole time then emerged to talk shit once kobe turned it way the fuck on in double OT.

I don't care what a bunch of bandwaggo's from NorCal reveal about Laker fans. Also, why does it matter WHEN they chose to talk shit? And shouldn't you really only talk shit if you win? I know Kings fans can't do that because the most significant victory they have against the Lakers is in a series they lost, but damn.

And 40% Laker fans? No wonder you guys have "San Diego fan disease."

[Bump]

And in other news... Lakers get plugged in the ass by the Suns...

[Bump]

And Blazers get fucked by the Sixers... but they were due after such an amazing road trip..Also, the Blazers are playing way over their head as dismantled as they are.

[el boracho]

I love all Laker haters...I cant wait for the playoffs when the lakers are doing their thing and your dam team is watching it on the couch like you...

[Tooz72]

W's pull one out over Celtics...from 18 down early :shocked :clap:

[Tió Nook Nook]

I don't care what a bunch of bandwaggo's from NorCal reveal about Laker fans. Also, why does it matter WHEN they chose to talk shit? And shouldn't you really only talk shit if you win? I know Kings fans can't do that because the most significant victory they have against the Lakers is in a series they lost, but damn.

And 40% Laker fans? No wonder you guys have "San Diego fan disease."

yes you should only talk shit when you win, but even when they were up, they weren't saying shit.

i don't think sacramento has "san diego fan disease"..just that nobody wants to see a shit team, right?

[Bump]

I love all Laker haters...I cant wait for the playoffs when the lakers are doing their thing and your dam team is watching it on the couch like you...

Blazers will be in the playoffs buddy.....

[el boracho]

Blazers will be in the playoffs buddy.....

thats what i heard last year. They very well could be. We will see. Still alot of Bball to be played.

[Lil Joker]

I love all Laker haters...I cant wait for the playoffs when the lakers are doing their thing and your dam team is watching it on the couch like you...

:beer:

[Doyers y Esleigher]

yes you should only talk shit when you win, but even when they were up, they weren't saying shit.

i don't think sacramento has "san diego fan disease"..just that nobody wants to see a shit team, right?

Do you...

- Use your sports team as an extension of your small market inferiority complex - CHECK

- Act as though a regular season against a rival is your championship game - CHECK

- Hang your hat on small victories - CHECK

- Brag about "almost winning" - CHECK

- Don't actually show up or care when the team falls off - CHECK

[Tió Nook Nook]

Do you...

- Use your sports team as an extension of your small market inferiority complex - CHECK

- Act as though a regular season against a rival is your championship game - CHECK

- Hang your hat on small victories - CHECK

- Brag about "almost winning" - CHECK

- Don't actually show up or care when the team falls off - CHECK

1. Valid
2. I will be completely stoked on them beating any team with a winning record.
3. Yes, this team was supposed to be terrible.
4. I wouldn't necessarily call it 'bragging' more like surprised that this team is almost playing .500 ball
5. I don't show up too often to Arco because of the price of tickets + parking, but I still try and watch as many games as I can.

[MaddenRaider]

The Kings gave another one to the Lakers. This time they only blew a 10 point lead in the 4th, though. So, we're at least narrowing our choke margin. I'd say in 3 years, we'll be down to only blowing 3 point leads against the Lakers. It's a work in progress.

[Bump]

Spurs voted as decades best team on CBS.com, NBA.com and Sporting News ...... LOL

[Tió Nook Nook]

i knew the game was over once ime missed that first FT.

[MaddenRaider]

So did I. He had to make both of them. That lofty pass from Gasol to Kobe had shades of that ball that rolled to Robert Horry. As soon as Kobe picked that thing up I knew it was over. It's a nightmare that keeps repeating itself. I swore off watching Lakers/Kings games long ago, but had a relapse last night, and payed for it.

[Bump]

Blazers beat the shitty as Warriors....