It's official Garcia Signs with the Raiders

[Skern]

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/04/06/back-to-the-bay-garcia-signs-with-raiders/

The Oakland Raiders have signed QB Jeff Garcia, reports NFL.com’s Steve Wyche.

Garcia, a 10-year NFL veteran and four-time Pro Bowl player, spent the 2008 season with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He started 11 games and saw action in 12, with 2,712 passing yards, 12 touchdowns and six interceptions.

He went 14-10 in 24 starts with the Bucs over the past two seasons, which included a Pro Bowl appearance and playoff berth in 2007.

Garcia, 39, spent his first five seasons in the NFL with the 49ers.

[Bump]

Well, Russell better step it up.... Garcia seems to always find a way to get in the starting lineup.

Not a fan of Garcia at all, especially at this stage in his career. Garcia will not wait 2 seconds to pull down and run around.

Russell will not pull down and run around...


What kind of offense is Tollner installing?

Who will it suit better?

Russell better step up or he will be out of a job this year and that definitely won't be good.

[ROCKET]

Maybe he can teach russell that it is ok to run sometimes.

[Tió Nook Nook]

Maybe he can teach russell that it is ok to run sometimes.
:Yep no shit..

[cheapshotartist]

Maybe he can teach russell that it is ok to run sometimes.

To be such a large player Russell runs very small.:csa:

[Bump]

Maybe he can teach russell that it is ok to run sometimes.


Nobody was able to teach Garcia that it is ok to stay in the pocket sometimes as well...

Jeff Garcia has put up stats in his career but thats about it... The dude hasn't won shit. I never was a fan of Garcia.

[or24]

To be such a large player Russell runs very small.:csa:
I second that. He is shy and soft. His whole decision making process needs to be upgraded too. Paul Hackett better get his ass to work!

[ROCKET]

Nobody was able to teach Garcia that it is ok to stay in the pocket sometimes as well...

Jeff Garcia has put up stats in his career but thats about it... The dude hasn't won shit. I never was a fan of Garcia.

Never been a fan of his either...he has a weak arm, probably why he chooses to run so much....but, the dude has heart. Ill give him that.

[ROCKET]

To be such a large player Russell runs very small.:csa:

+2 He needs to put that big ass in motion and MOVE!!!

[dirt williams]

He can show Russell where all the gay bars are...

[Don]

Garcia has a tremendous QB mind in the body of a horse jockey. He will bring a warrior element to the QB position that we haven't had in forever. While he can't make the throws a true vertical offense demands, nor does he have the ability to stay in the pocket and take a hit for the sake of the play, he is an excellent change of pace QB that can pick up anywhere and hold the team down for a stretch of games.

I like the guy and his history. What he did to take the Eagles into the playoffs and his performance in TB shows he is a competent, experienced QB in the NFL. None of that can be said for ANY QB on our roster, which is why this is such a good move.

I'm not a fan of the guy's game, per se, just the attitude and determination and his ability to WILL things to happen when the X's and O's break down.

I dont think he can teach Russell much in terms of throwing or mechanics, but can help with the selling of plays with regards to footwork, keys, progressions and staring down.

As long as this was not sold to Garcia as an open competition and he really is OK with playing the backseat vet role, this deal gives us a huge upgrade at the backup position...

If I show up to the opening game and Garcia is under center, then this was not a good move

[Sonny Cheeba]

He's not expecting to be the starter....but I was reading on PFT earlier, at this point last year Kurtis Warner was not gonna be the starter and pretty boy Matthew Leinart was entrenched as the no. 1 QB.

[ROCKET]

He can show Russell where all the gay bars are...

If boning playboy playmates makes you gay then I don't know what to say...cuz I'd bang every single chick I've seen him with!

[Don]

He's not expecting to be the starter....but I was reading on PFT earlier, at this point last year Kurtis Warner was not gonna be the starter and pretty boy Matthew Leinart was entrenched as the no. 1 QB.

Yeah, but Kurts game is on a whole different level than Jeff. Youre talking about a guy who was at the forefront of Martz' revolutionary offense, has the strength and mind of a true high caliber QB, led a team to a SB victory etc.. compared to a guy who arguably should never had a legitamite job as a starting QB when you look at his measurables.

Plus then you look at Leinart who is purely the product of a potent system and did not rely mostly on talent like J Russ. I think Leinart had the playbook down, just sucked at executing. I don't see Jamarcus chucking up three or four ints in preseason game, without doing a bunch of good things that would validate him as a starter. There will be some rough patches for Russell in settling in to a different passing game, but I don't see him looking as completely lost a LEinart did in that game we played against him last year.

[Don]

If boning playboy playmates makes you gay then I don't know what to say...cuz I'd bang every single chick I've seen him with!

:beer: Real talk, the guys voice es muy joto, pero la panocha es real...

[Sonny Cheeba]

If boning playboy playmates makes you gay then I don't know what to say...cuz I'd bang every single chick I've seen him with!
Yeah forreal, wasn't he smashing Carmella Decesare?
Yeah, but Kurts game is on a whole different level than Jeff. Youre talking about a guy who was at the forefront of Martz' revolutionary offense, has the strength and mind of a true high caliber QB, led a team to a SB victory etc.. compared to a guy who arguably should never had a legitamite job as a starting QB when you look at his measurables.

Plus then you look at Leinart who is purely the product of a potent system and did not rely mostly on talent like J Russ. I think Leinart had the playbook down, just sucked at executing. I don't see Jamarcus chucking up three or four ints in preseason game, without doing a bunch of good things that would validate him as a starter. There will be some rough patches for Russell in settling in to a different passing game, but I don't see him looking as completely lost a LEinart did in that game we played against him last year.
Very true, although Kurt was considered washed up as far back as 4 or 5 years ago. He even struggled near the end of his STL tenure, bombed with the Giants and started off poorly in Arizona. Obviously the Cardinals brass are happy that Kurt led them to the SB this year, but it's definitley not what they expected.

I think Leinart is trash, but I'm just drawing comparisons for the two situations. And if Garcia does end up being our week 1 starter, I think it's a terrible sign for Jamarcus' future.

[Boom]

Russell should take notes from this season vet. This signing should also push Russell to better play

[JRaider17]

Maybe he can teach russell that it is ok to run sometimes.

Hopefully, many times Russell would have atleast 10 yards and just stand there.

[Miklo]

Maybe she'll come to some games...
http://sports.rightpundits.com/wp-content/photos/jeff_garcia__s_girlfriend.jpg

[dirt williams]

If boning playboy playmates makes you gay then I don't know what to say...cuz I'd bang every single chick I've seen him with!

beards...

[sraiderguy]

Good signing best backup Raiders have had in years.

[Jake]

Interesting. Dudes a scrapper, gonna compete hard as hell for that starter job I'm sure.

Gonna move this to the main forum yall.

[Skern]

Interesting. Dudes a scrapper, gonna compete hard as hell for that starter job I'm sure.

Gonna move this to the main forum yall.

Cool. I wasnt sure where to post it. :roc:

[Sonny Cheeba]

Yo Dirt that avatar is killin me. :rofl

[RaiderzVixen]

Good signing best backup Raiders have had in years.

:beer: These were my exact words this morning when i heard about the signing! Good move!!

[dirt williams]

yo dirt that avatar is killin me. :rofl

:619:

[Jake]

Cool. I wasnt sure where to post it. :roc:

Yeah Skerndizzle the bot catches everything and dumps it in there, anything worth talkin about feel free to post up in here.

[Skern]

Yeah Skerndizzle the bot catches everything and dumps it in there, anything worth talkin about feel free to post up in here.

Thanks brotha man :rasta

[GenRaider]

Tollener runs a down the field offense, but Hackett, the actual qb, comes from a west coast background.

It is a good signing, nonetheless.

[silver & black]

Does this mean Gradkowski or Tui gets dumped?

[Don]

Does this mean Gradkowski or Tui gets dumped?

Tui is already a FA, so Id say this means Walter gets traded for late ronud pick or to move up a few spots in rd. 2.

[raidersforlife]

the media is all over this and is acting like Russell just lost his job. Man now I really see what McNabb and others have talked about in terms of perceptions about the black QB.

[chitown]

If boning playboy playmates makes you gay then I don't know what to say...cuz I'd bang every single chick I've seen him with!

X2

[Don]

the media is all over this and is acting like Russell just lost his job. Man now I really see what McNabb and others have talked about in terms of perceptions about the black QB.

Yup. That was the first thought that hit my head.

[el boracho]

nice pickup...if this doesnt motivate JR than i dont know what will......we will definantly find out this season for sure if JR is the future or not..

[raidersforlife]

Yup. That was the first thought that hit my head.

It is just sad when articles like this are at the front of sites like yahoo! sports
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Raiders-sign-Jeff-Garcia-ensure-quarterback-con;_ylt=AitqYmzd6TJwZwh1R1KNR1dDubYF?urn=nfl,1533 03

They aren't even giving him a chance.

[el boracho]

It is just sad when articles like this are at the front of sites like yahoo! sports
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Raiders-sign-Jeff-Garcia-ensure-quarterback-con;_ylt=AitqYmzd6TJwZwh1R1KNR1dDubYF?urn=nfl,1533 03

They aren't even giving him a chance.


Ensure controversy ??? wtf???...haha...

[TruR8r]

It can't hurt so welcome Jeff.

[BigPrimo]

F the haters. Man this is our year. I can see it!!!

[-GG-]

With Garcia on the depth chart, it will create a QB competition. Mastering the playbook, being a leader, marshaling men, commandeering drives. If Russell falls behind the bar that Garcia sets, then it's no one but Russell's fault. Just cos he got picked #1 and received $35m guaranteed? Enough of these guys living off the Raider meal-ticket. If he wants to be the leader, the future, then he's got to knuckle down and beat out a 39 yo vet. If he cant do that he doesnt deserve to be the guy.

[DutchRaider]

Great post GG, you're 100% right about this. I like the signing because it will light a fire under Russell's ass no matter what, Davis and Cable have given Russell a sign here and it's up to him now if he picks up the gauntlet. When he succeeds the Raiders will be a better team because of it and if he fails the Raiders have a solid back up QB who will give this team a chance to win during the coming season.

[BigPrimo]

i swear i hate mike lombardi even more now. HE said this morning that this was a bad signing and that Garcia had no where to go so he settled here. He said that its a bad signing because Garcia and KRuss are 2 different qb's and this shows that we are a poorly run franchise. Im like can you please make some sense when you talk and stop ramblining on like a disgrunted past employee.

[-GG-]

The media is more often a soapbox for has-beens who feel insignificant without their 15 mins. There's very few real journalists and analysts out there, especially ex-coaches or administrators. Brian Billick is one of the good ones out there.

[cheapshotartist]

With Garcia on the depth chart, it will create a QB competition. Mastering the playbook, being a leader, marshaling men, commandeering drives. If Russell falls behind the bar that Garcia sets, then it's no one but Russell's fault. Just cos he got picked #1 and received $35m guaranteed? Enough of these guys living off the Raider meal-ticket. If he wants to be the leader, the future, then he's got to knuckle down and beat out a 39 yo vet. If he cant do that he doesnt deserve to be the guy.

I agree GG its all about winning and who ever gives us the best chance to win gets my vote. Russell is the future but if Garcia can win now let his azz play. Sh!t If Walter beats them both out I'll ride with his azz. Just win baby.
:csa:

[-GG-]

Good words there, Dutch and CSA.

And yeah, i dont care who is or isnt a starter. Just want to see those starters there cos they want it, "who wants it most", build a reputation from playing well and putting in the hard yards, not because of where they got drafted. who's part of the solution not part of the problem.

[cheapshotartist]

All you need 2 do is look at the Titans last season VY was the QB and the team sucked. Enter KFC and bam they make the playoffs. Its all about winning.
:csa:

[Bump]

Ok, I am going to go against the grain here again......

This is what happens if Russell doesnt beat out Jeff Garcia....

1 - We go into the season with a starting 40 year old QB that was brought into "lighting" a fire under Russell... All this considering Russell is learning a completely new playbook all over again.

2 - Russell will never win the starting job in Oakland again if he loses it to Garcia. Because after this year his guaranteed money is paid off and they wont pay him the reamainder of his contract.

So, Garcia coming here is a BAD thing. Because IF he beats Russell out because of his familiarity with the offense the sayings of the Russell pick setting us back 10 years will absolutely come to fruition.

[Bump]

are u serious????

Jeff Garcia will be good for ONE winning season IF that @ 40 y.o

Considering Garcia has never won shit in his entire career that is not a good feeling because we will be looking QB in the 2010 draft if this happens.

[sraiderguy]

Ok, I am going to go against the grain here again......

This is what happens if Russell doesnt beat out Jeff Garcia....

1 - We go into the season with a starting 40 year old QB that was brought into "lighting" a fire under Russell... All this considering Russell is learning a completely new playbook all over again.

2 - Russell will never win the starting job in Oakland again if he loses it to Garcia. Because after this year his guaranteed money is paid off and they wont pay him the reamainder of his contract.

So, Garcia coming here is a BAD thing. Because IF he beats Russell out because of his familiarity with the offense the sayings of the Russell pick setting us back 10 years will absolutely come to fruition.

If Garcia beats out Russell then Russell may not be a franchise QB. Seems like now it is a make or break season for Russell if he makes it great Raiders got their man, and if he breaks then it is time to go another route.

Finding out if investing long term in Russell is a good thing not a bad thing.

[ROCKET]

How "gay" is Garcia??? SHIIIIIIIT.
http://beerandseeds.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/carmella9fc.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SI5Wsh3fvfI/AAAAAAAAAkE/V_7u1iClaUI/s320/jeff-garcia-wife-carmella-decesare.jpg

[-GG-]

All you need 2 do is look at the Titans last season VY was the QB and the team sucked. Enter KFC and bam they make the playoffs. Its all about winning.
:csa:

And look at VY now! He's now #3 behind Patrick Ramsay. Fisher FORCING him to pull his finger out and make something of himself or else the franchise will not compromize the team just to carry a highly drafted player who is lagging behind.

This is what the Raiders have been doing wrong the last bunch of years and it's great that Cable/Davis have come around finally to sorting this sort of thing out by cutting Hall, getting rid of Wilson, restructuring underperforming players, cutting guys like Grove, and signing a vet QB like Garcia to push Russell to make something of himself or find himself on the way out.

Babying Russell is not the right way about it. Because too many times these highly physically gifted players out of college bomb in the pros with the wrong attitude, skimping out on hard work relying on latent talent.

Russell needs to prove he's part of the solution not part of the problem by beating out Garcia. And really, if he cant do that now then he aint got much of a future, and the Raiders would probably go looking for a youngish back-up from another team to become the new starter after Garcia's one season contract expires.

[-GG-]

This is very enlightening imo...

Jeff Garcia says he "realize(s) that JaMarcus (Russell) right now is the anointed starter" in Oakland.
Notice how many modifiers Garcia put in that statement. He did add that he'll "support (Russell) and help him any way that I can." The Raiders haven't said anything publicly about the Garcia signing yet, but he's fully expected to be a backup. Russell's leash should at least extend through midseason.

[Boom]

How "gay" is Garcia??? SHIIIIIIIT.
http://beerandseeds.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/carmella9fc.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SI5Wsh3fvfI/AAAAAAAAAkE/V_7u1iClaUI/s320/jeff-garcia-wife-carmella-decesare.jpg

If that was me in that photo, my cock will definitly be touching her ass

[Boom]

Ok, I am going to go against the grain here again......

This is what happens if Russell doesnt beat out Jeff Garcia....

1 - We go into the season with a starting 40 year old QB that was brought into "lighting" a fire under Russell... All this considering Russell is learning a completely new playbook all over again.

2 - Russell will never win the starting job in Oakland again if he loses it to Garcia. Because after this year his guaranteed money is paid off and they wont pay him the reamainder of his contract.

So, Garcia coming here is a BAD thing. Because IF he beats Russell out because of his familiarity with the offense the sayings of the Russell pick setting us back 10 years will absolutely come to fruition.

I beleive they brought him in here to show Russell the ropes and to mentor him and nothing more. I can't see Garcia starting, it doesn't make sense. Russell is Al's boy and it's not going to happen.

[Boom]

And look at VY now! He's now #3 behind Patrick Ramsay. Fisher FORCING him to pull his finger out and make something of himself or else the franchise will not compromize the team just to carry a highly drafted player who is lagging behind.

This is what the Raiders have been doing wrong the last bunch of years and it's great that Cable/Davis have come around finally to sorting this sort of thing out by cutting Hall, getting rid of Wilson, restructuring underperforming players, cutting guys like Grove, and signing a vet QB like Garcia to push Russell to make something of himself or find himself on the way out.

Babying Russell is not the right way about it. Because too many times these highly physically gifted players out of college bomb in the pros with the wrong attitude, skimping out on hard work relying on latent talent.

Russell needs to prove he's part of the solution not part of the problem by beating out Garcia. And really, if he cant do that now then he aint got much of a future, and the Raiders would probably go looking for a youngish back-up from another team to become the new starter after Garcia's one season contract expires.

There is something fishy about Vince Young.. I mean a couple seasons ago after his rookie season didn't he want to retire and shit?

[Don]

^^ wasn't he on suicide watch last year?

didnt he score like a 6 on his wonderlic?

Wasnt he seen at what looked like a homosexual exstacy party in a sweaty ass tent with the softest got damm dude on our beloved Raiders?

Yeahh..fishy alright

[Bump]

How "gay" is Garcia??? SHIIIIIIIT.
http://beerandseeds.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/carmella9fc.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SI5Wsh3fvfI/AAAAAAAAAkE/V_7u1iClaUI/s320/jeff-garcia-wife-carmella-decesare.jpg


If being gay meant I was beatin that down on the regular.......... id be gay all day.

[dirt williams]

How "gay" is Garcia??? SHIIIIIIIT.
http://beerandseeds.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/carmella9fc.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SI5Wsh3fvfI/AAAAAAAAAkE/V_7u1iClaUI/s320/jeff-garcia-wife-carmella-decesare.jpg

Can you explain this?
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[ROCKET]

Can you explain this?
<a href="http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/d-mac37/?action=view&current=ryans.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i308/d-mac37/ryans.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

If Seacrest was with Garcia then Id have some serious doubts bro!!

Seacrest is more than likely a homo...no argument there.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I agree with Bump here. Jamarcus hasn't had much of a chance to develop into an NFL QB, and now he's being forced into a competition (I don't give a shit what Garcia tells the media, it's a competition) while learning a brand new playbook. He's got a revolving door of coaches telling him different thing, including Cable who could be a lame duck by mid-season like all the other guys that get hired to coach this team.

[Bump]

i swear i hate mike lombardi even more now. HE said this morning that this was a bad signing and that Garcia had no where to go so he settled here. He said that its a bad signing because Garcia and KRuss are 2 different qb's and this shows that we are a poorly run franchise. Im like can you please make some sense when you talk and stop ramblining on like a disgrunted past employee.

Mig but he is absolutely right.

You don't draft a project QB #1 overall.... To turn around and scrap his first year and turn around, install a new offense that doesn't suit his skill set.

THEN bring in a QB who is basically a hand in glove fit for this offense.

To top it all off there are echoes that this is a make or break year for what is in theory a second year QB.

The rookie negotiations were botched by the Raiders front office, not Jamarcus.

And then you have Cable already calling the kid out to boot.

Call it Jamarcus possibly not being a franchise QB. I call it setting a kid up for failure.

[BigPrimo]

How "gay" is Garcia??? SHIIIIIIIT.
http://beerandseeds.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/carmella9fc.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bC1tYl3yzyk/SI5Wsh3fvfI/AAAAAAAAAkE/V_7u1iClaUI/s320/jeff-garcia-wife-carmella-decesare.jpg

IF this is what being gay is in 2009 then sign me the fvck up!!!

I got a question, has TO ever been seen with a woman out side of Kelly Price in her video?

[Bump]

If Garcia beats out Russell then Russell may not be a franchise QB. Seems like now it is a make or break season for Russell if he makes it great Raiders got their man, and if he breaks then it is time to go another route.

Finding out if investing long term in Russell is a good thing not a bad thing.


And my is this... you aren't going to be able to accurately gauge whether Jamarcus is worth investing in long term or not....

Especially when you have a losing shmuck like Garcia breathing down his neck all season.

Garcia can care less if Russell needs to develop, could care less if he is learning a brand new playbook, can care less about being a mentor.

Garcia also refuses to accept he sucks and any hardbody defense that is worth its weight in salt with a decent spy come crunchtime, especially in the playoffs will make him all the more irrelevant.

Its also the reason why Garcia never has and never will be shit.

He is hanging on as long as he can.... refused to take a backup job @ 40 years old.

Not because he still has a fir for the game but because he knows he can no longer maintain his trophy bitch on backup NFL money.

To the detriment of his team as well he is hell bent on starting..

So yes, it appears when all else fails you can find a home in Oakland strikes again.

[Tió Nook Nook]

just curious as to why everybody feels that garcia thinks he's gonna come in and be a starter?
i mean i obv don't know dude and he did use a lot of qualifiers in that statement of his..who knows? maybe he really did just want to be closer to home and get some more dough for one last yr

[Miklo]

Q: Status behind Russell . . .

Garcia: I realize that JaMarcus right now is the anointed starter. I’m going to support him and help him any way that I can. Part of helping him is by pushing him and showing him what I’m capable of as a player also. I think that it’s important to show that this team has depth in all positions and quarterback is definitely going to be one of those positions that there will be positive depth at and if he, for some reason, can’t do it, then hopefully I’m the guy that can do it. It’s one of those things where I’m going to be very supportive of him. He has so much talent within himself, hopefully I can just help to bring it out, in him, and also, help be a leader on this team, and help bring this team together as a unit and allow us to play together as a team every Sunday and compete at a high level.

[Don]

Bump smoked himself paranoid today! lol

[Bump]

Q: Status behind Russell . . .

Garcia: I realize that JaMarcus right now is the anointed starter. I’m going to support him and help him any way that I can. Part of helping him is by pushing him and showing him what I’m capable of as a player also. I think that it’s important to show that this team has depth in all positions and quarterback is definitely going to be one of those positions that there will be positive depth at and if he, for some reason, can’t do it, then hopefully I’m the guy that can do it. It’s one of those things where I’m going to be very supportive of him. He has so much talent within himself, hopefully I can just help to bring it out, in him, and also, help be a leader on this team, and help bring this team together as a unit and allow us to play together as a team every Sunday and compete at a high level.

PC statement

[Bump]

Bump smoked himself paranoid today! lol

You think I was a little harsh?

[Don]

You think I was a little harsh?

NAh I aint trippin. I honestly have some reservations parallel with yours, but I still think this was a good signing.

You did go a little noid on it tho..:shocked

[Bump]

NAh I aint trippin. I honestly have some reservations parallel with yours, but I still think this was a good signing.

You did go a little noid on it tho..:shocked


Man, Eff him...

He a closet 'mo with the trophy ho.

[BlackHeart]

I wouldn't take this Garcia signing that seriously Bump. And who in the hell takes Lombardi all that serious anyway ? He thinks he is some insider and his opinions are as meaningless as these Bleacher Report writers out here.


The bottom line is that it doesn't hurt to have a vet QB in Garcia on the roster with Russell being the starter. Garcia will be in the film room , in practice and so on around Russell so what we should hope is that Russell takes his job as seriously now that Garcia is signed and hopefully he can get pushed and make himself a better QB.

[Don]

HA! Don't hate cuz he's smashin dimes!

NAw for real, I know he aint the most masculine sounding dude, but...ok he sounds pretty gay when he talks.

[Bump]

I wouldn't take this Garcia signing that seriously Bump. And who in the hell takes Lombardi all that serious anyway ? He thinks he is some insider and his opinions are as meaningless as these Bleacher Report writers out here.


The bottom line is that it doesn't hurt to have a vet QB in Garcia on the roster with Russell being the starter. Garcia will be in the film room , in practice and so on around Russell so what we should hope is that Russell takes his job as seriously now that Garcia is signed and hopefully he can get pushed and make himself a better QB.

Nah but for once, I agree with Lombardi.

I know the dude is a tool but even tools nail shit on the head sometimes...

Like hammers...

Lombardi far from a hammer in the journalism sense tho.

[Bump]

HA! Don't hate cuz he's smashin dimes!

NAw for real, I know he aint the most masculine sounding dude, but...ok he sounds pretty gay when he talks.

Man, I fucked up in life. I should have been an NFL QB.

[raidersforlife]

just curious as to why everybody feels that garcia thinks he's gonna come in and be a starter?
i mean i obv don't know dude and he did use a lot of qualifiers in that statement of his..who knows? maybe he really did just want to be closer to home and get some more dough for one last yr

You have to ask the media that one, I have no idea either.

Check this one out:

http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_12094016?source=rss

[raidersforlife]

He worked with hackett in 2007 too, interesting:


Garcia's most recent Pro Bowl trip followed the 2007 season, when his quarterbacks coach with Tampa Bay was Paul Hackett, who now holds the same position for the Raiders. The Raiders claimed Gradkowski, another Hackett pupil from Tampa Bay, off waivers in February.


http://sacbee.com/raiders/story/1760654.html

[BigPrimo]

Well bottom line is JRuss should not have been picked in the first place. He is a one game wonder and my guy feeling says hes gonna bust no matter how good the overall team is. We should have picked AD or CJ that year i myself wanted CJ then lynch and everyone who knows me knows i had the man crush on Troy Smith, now hes just gonan rot on the bench behind flacco and we get stuck with a egg mcmuffin!!!

[FuggenChris]

And look at VY now! He's now #3 behind Patrick Ramsay. Fisher FORCING him to pull his finger out and make something of himself or else the franchise will not compromize the team just to carry a highly drafted player who is lagging behind.

This is what the Raiders have been doing wrong the last bunch of years and it's great that Cable/Davis have come around finally to sorting this sort of thing out by cutting Hall, getting rid of Wilson, restructuring underperforming players, cutting guys like Grove, and signing a vet QB like Garcia to push Russell to make something of himself or find himself on the way out.

Babying Russell is not the right way about it. Because too many times these highly physically gifted players out of college bomb in the pros with the wrong attitude, skimping out on hard work relying on latent talent.

Russell needs to prove he's part of the solution not part of the problem by beating out Garcia. And really, if he cant do that now then he aint got much of a future, and the Raiders would probably go looking for a youngish back-up from another team to become the new starter after Garcia's one season contract expires.

^^ this....

[dirt williams]

Man, Eff him...

He a closet 'mo with the trophy ho.

Thankyou.

[JRaider17]

Kiffin put Russell behind schedule...he should have been in there earlier.