The Official College Football Thread

[SONIC]

There's an official MLB thread, and an official NBA thread & a subforum to discuss the rest of the NFL so hey, why not have a n official College Football thread?

I'll start it off by saying this...

I have seen enough of what Jimmy Clausen can do & is interested in seeing how our other QB, Dayne Crist can do for us. Also, playcalling needs to be better, much better. Where are the quick slants, passes to the tight end instead of those damn sideline passes that only get 1-2 yards tops?

Good thing is we have a receiving corps in Golden Tate & Michael Floyd.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

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"Note Dame? The fuck outta here!"

[Tió Nook Nook]

Roll onnnnnn you beeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssss sssssssssssssssss

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"Note Dame? The fuck outta here!"

I was saying the same shit...

he was saying "WE" as if anybody follows that suckage of a football program to know who he is talking about when he alludes to "WE"

Fuck Notre Dame

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Roll onnnnnn you beeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsssssss sssssssssssssssss

Cal fan?

nice

[Tió Nook Nook]

Cal fan?

nice

yeah, my girl went there and i've been to a couple of games.
pretty excited for this upcoming season..see if jahvid best can be healthy for the whole season, and their new 3-4 D will be interesting as well

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I like Best a lot. Dude has a pair of wheels! Definitely the most exciting player Cal's had in awhile.

SC and Florida control their own destinies this year. It's tough to tell who's schedule is harder. Florida plays the toughest teams but also have more games against flat out shit teams. Hopefully the Big 10 won't be allowed to play a role as they suck ass.

[GenRaider]

ND blows.

[Don]

Bears fan all the way right here. Grew up in Berkeley as a kid going to games, have a lot of friends who are Cal alums..

Definitely excited to see Cal kick off a new year with a lot of fresh faces and big holes to fill both defensively and on the O-line. QB is a huge question mark this year ass well. With better QB play last year, we could have had a few more W's, and yes, Hill, probably one on the Trojans.

Excited to see Sidquan Thompson have a monster year as well as the rest of the secondary, and definately little savage ass Jehvid Best

[IndyRaider]

Fuck Notre Lame. USC all the way. What with all the hate of all things California in this state. It has been most enjoyable to watch SC beat down nd and every other lame ass team in the big 10.


And one more thing. Why the fuck does college football not have a playoff like virtually every other sport ? It's like the nfl crowning the super bowl champion after playing only the first round of the playoff. That shits just retarded.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Definitely excited to see Cal kick off a new year with a lot of fresh faces and big holes to fill both defensively and on the O-line. QB is a huge question mark this year ass well. With better QB play last year, we could have had a few more W's, and yes, Hill, probably one on the Trojans.

Better QB play? The Trojans held Best to 30 yards. They had the best defense in college football history last year, a better QB wasn't giving Cal a god damn thing against USC.

[Miklo]

I'm a Cal fan too. And I also like Miami. Time for them to get relevant.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I'm a Cal fan too. And I also like Miami. Time for them to get relevant.

Did you just kick your own ass during the Emerald Bowl?

[RaiderFootball]

Its alll about this right here for me.......http://www.parsonsjobs.com/collegerelations/images/u_images/2-0/university_miami_logo.jpg

[Padrino]

GO MIDDIES!

GO AZTECS!

and last but not least, GO TROJANS!..

[RaiderFootball]

Not really a Trojan fan but I love watching Taylor Mays go Beast Mode on guys.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

You live close to Knoxville? There's a GREAT safety wearing orange as well. Berry = beast. Mays is better though.

[RaiderFootball]

I like watching Berry play but cant Stand the Vols in general...probably not the Vols as much as their fans around here though

[Miklo]

Did you just kick your own ass during the Emerald Bowl?

It's always Cal first. I just like the players Miami produces. I became a fan of Miami in 01 with Portis, Shockey, Andre Johnson, Vilma, Ed Reed, and all the other crazy athletes. It's not a big secret that my favorite non-Raider was Sean Taylor. I've talked about how I wanted him since the 04 draft. Since then, I've been a fan of Miami. But if they played each other, it's Cal every time.

[SONIC]

GO MIDDIES!

GO AZTECS!

and last but not least, GO TROJANS!..

The Mishipmen & the Aztecs I can live with, but sorry Trojans have always been & always will be hated by me.

[Padrino]

The Mishipmen & the Aztecs I can live with, but sorry Trojans have always been & always will be hated by me.


I was a big ND fan during the Lou Holtz era. I used to have a sweet ass ND parka in HS...

[GenRaider]

I'm a big time UCLA BRUIN fan. Fuck, my team still stinks... Our D needs to get tougher, our QB has to play smarter, and our wideouts need to develop. Fuck, with supporting UCLA and the Raiders, I dunno know how I am still able to watch FOOTBALL without losing my mind.

[Padrino]

I'm a big time UCLA BRUIN fan. Fuck, my team still stinks... Our D needs to get tougher, our QB has to play smarter, and our wideouts need to develop. Fuck, with supporting UCLA and the Raiders, I dunno know how I am still able to watch FOOTBALL without losing my mind.

I still think UCLA would have won the National Championship if it weren't for that weather postponed game against Miami. Cade McNown was great that year...

[Don]

I'm a big time UCLA BRUIN fan. Fuck, my team still stinks... Our D needs to get tougher, our QB has to play smarter, and our wideouts need to develop. Fuck, with supporting UCLA and the Raiders, I dunno know how I am still able to watch FOOTBALL without losing my mind.

Nice, Gen. didnt know that. Drew Olsen was a great friend of mine growing up. I was bummed to see him not see the field for either the Ravens or Niners.

[SONIC]

I was a big ND fan during the Lou Holtz era. I used to have a sweet ass ND parka in HS...

Nice, Lou Holtz was head coach at the time I first started watching the Irish (6 years old). I survived a below average head coach in Bob Davie & a pisspoor gameplanner & average recruiter in Ty Willingham. Seeing Brady Quinn as the QB in Charlie Weis' first year in 2005 was one of the most exciting years of Notre Dame football I have seen in years.

[GenRaider]

I still think UCLA would have won the National Championship if it weren't for that weather postponed game against Miami. Cade McNown was great that year...

December 5, 1998. I still remember that damn game. (2 DAYS AFTER MY B-DAY)

Although Bruins offense was lethal, the D was absolutely horrible.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Notre Dame shouldn't have fired Willingham. They are a stupid, stupid program right now with that contract to Weis. He had one good season with Willingham's recruits.

[Sonny Cheeba]

Notre Dame shouldn't have fired Willingham. They are a stupid, stupid program right now with that contract to Weis. He had one good season with Willingham's recruits.
Wasn't there a whole behind-the-scenes race issue with that? I could be totally wrong but I though a lot of their alum and boosters had a problem w/ Willingham being hired in the first place.

[Padrino]

December 5, 1998. I still remember that damn game. (2 DAYS AFTER MY B-DAY)

Although Bruins offense was lethal, the D was absolutely horrible.

Edgarrin James shredded the Bruin d. UCLA had a serious hangover after that game and got worked by Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl...

[UC]

Notre Dame shouldn't have fired Willingham. They are a stupid, stupid program right now with that contract to Weis. He had one good season with Willingham's recruits.


Willingham showed to be complete garbage in his four year stint at a respectable school (UW). I am shocked at how bad they have become. I don't think that team last year could compete with many division II schools.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

You can't deny the success of Willingham's recruits though. ND had their best 2 years all decade with Ty's guys. And yes, there were definitely racial issues, Notre Dame is an old catholic institution in the most racist state in the union.

UCLA is going to get better really fast. Neuheisel is getting them real recruits and swiping guys from major programs.

[SONIC]

NCAA to investigate USC's employment of former NFL coach

USC football coach Pete Carroll may have violated NCAA rules last season when he hired a former NFL tactician to help with the team's punting and kicking game, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Pete Rodriguez, who has coached for several professional teams, told the Times that he attended USC practices, monitored games and offered Carroll behind-the-scenes advice on matters ranging from improving individual players' performance to avoiding penalties during punt returns.

"I would watch practice and tell Pete, 'Hey, this guy needs this and this,' " Rodriguez said. He said he believed that his work complied with National Collegiate Athletic Assn. regulations

The NCAA is exploring whether Carroll's employment of Rodriguez was in violation of rules that limit the number of coaches and consultants a team can use.

"That's coaching," J. Brent Clark, a onetime NCAA investigator who practices law in Oklahoma, told the Times when told of Rodriguez's statements. "The rules are designed to level the playing field for all institutions regardless of the size of their budgets. It would make no sense for the rich and powerful to be able to compensate coaches with NFL backgrounds outside the coaching-limitation rules."

If using Rodriguez does constitute a violation, that could widen an already active NCAA inquiry that's exploring allegations that the football team gave improper benefits to two players, and that the university has lost "institutional control" of its athletics department as a whole.

The NCAA has been looking at the USC football and basketball programs for three years.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-07-30/ncaa-investigate-usc-s-employment-former-nfl-coach

[SONIC]

Okay, of all the talks about Willingham, Weis, etc. Let me set the record straight on why we really fired Willingham in the first place & why.

Yes, Ty recruited Brady Quinn, Samardzija, Zbikowski, Darius Walker, et al but while Ty was head coach he, in and of himself, could never get the players to perform at the level that Charlie Weis got them to when Willingham was fired & when Charlie replaced him. They were the only recruits Willingham can take credit for but the rest never panned out. Meanwhile Charlie has went above and beyond in recruiting and has picked up 4-5 star players on both sides of the ball on a yearly basis. Sure his playcalling may not be the best but when Willingham was head coach, he was a TERRIBLE in-game planner. THAT is why we fired Ty in the first place, he was a terrible gameday coach, probably even worse than Bob Davie and I thought Davie was bad. The ones who claim Notre Dame is "racist" are just jealous of Notre Dame & really need to look up actual facts if they want to find the very reasons for their actions. They include ESPN College Football talking heads Lee Corso & Mark May, who always HATED the Fighting Irish.

[GenRaider]

Okay, of all the talks about Willingham, Weis, etc. Let me set the record straight on why we really fired Willingham in the first place & why.

Yes, Ty recruited Brady Quinn, Samardzija, Zbikowski, Darius Walker, et al but while Ty was head coach he, in and of himself, could never get the players to perform at the level that Charlie Weis got them to when Willingham was fired & when Charlie replaced him. They were the only recruits Willingham can take credit for but the rest never panned out. Meanwhile Charlie has went above and beyond in recruiting and has picked up 4-5 star players on both sides of the ball on a yearly basis. Sure his playcalling may not be the best but when Willingham was head coach, he was a TERRIBLE in-game planner. THAT is why we fired Ty in the first place, he was a terrible gameday coach, probably even worse than Bob Davie and I thought Davie was bad. The ones who claim Notre Dame is "racist" are just jealous of Notre Dame & really need to look up actual facts if they want to find the very reasons for their actions. They include ESPN College Football talking heads Lee Corso & Mark May, who always HATED the Fighting Irish.

He was fired because of race, dude. Charlie Weiss isn't exactly doing any better.

[SONIC]

He was fired because of race, dude. Charlie Weiss isn't exactly doing any better.

They never fired him for race.

Charlie has definitely done better at recruiting. Ty could never get the players he recruited to perform & excel on the field.

Have you seen how Willingham did in Washington? he was an absolute abomination, made the Huskies the worst Div. I school in the country last year.

[GenRaider]

They never fired him for race.

Charlie has definitely done better at recruiting. Ty could never get the players he recruited to perform & excel on the field.

Have you seen how Willingham did in Washington? he was an absolute abomination, made the Huskies the worst Div. I school in the country last year.

Oh gosh. Do you fucking understand that USC has the west coast on lock down? I guess you don't. Let's see: would you rather go to USC, an NFL FACTORY. Or go to the Huskies?

And guess what he was fired partially because of his race. TY was giving three years to turn around the program. Yet, a scrub like Bob Davie had 5 full seasons, and currently Charlie Weiss is entering is fifth year. So what the fuck did they fire TY after three seasons?

Face facts-- Notre Dame never gave TY a full shot to succeed... and part of that shit has to do with Race.

For the record, Notre Dame is not Notre Dame anymore. There are not drawing the players they once were. They no longer win with traditional notre dame ball as everybody is going to some sort of spread or wide open offense. They don't have the speed at corner or on defense to keep up with power teams like USC, Gators and such. They don't have playmakers on offense that is going to scare anybody.

NOTRE DAME will continue to get fucked IN THE ASS on a yearly basis by USC AND any other team that has playmakers.

They can take that shiny helmet and go fuck themselves....

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I'm a USC fan so I'm not "jealous" of Notre Dame. USC has asspounded Notre Dame every year since Carroll took over.

Also, Gen makes a point Sonic ignored - every other coach ND had got five years to turn their program around. Devine got 5 years, Faust 5 years, Davie 5 years, then Willingham gets three.

We're also talking about an old Catholic instutition in maybe the most racist state in the entire union. Sorry but race played a factor. Is it any coincidence that the best ND team this decade (the one that missed the National Championship courtesy of Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush, and one great choke) was made entirely of Ty's recruits, and when some of the linemen left ND became an immediate joke?

Fuck them. The only reason they haven't been completely worthless is because they schedule the service academies.

[UC]

Wait, if Notre Dame was racist, why would they have hired Willingham in the first place?

[GenRaider]

Wait, if Notre Dame was racist, why would they have hired Willingham in the first place?

They were thinking outside of the box when they hired Ty... IMO, i think the way his firing happen was shady.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Wait, if Notre Dame was racist, why would they have hired Willingham in the first place?

No one's saying their AD is racist, but his ear definitely has racists in it. I can't imagine some of those old ND alums were happy about a black guy running the show.

Weis is an AWFUL college coach. He runs his practices NFL style so his first team gets the huge majority of the reps. That's not really how you're supposed to coach college players, you need to create depth.

And no one is impressed with a 4-5 star here and there when teams like SC and Florida are 2-3 5-stars deep at some positions. Notre Dame is supposed to be in the conversation with the best teams in the country every year, and I feel like they haven't even really been a top 10 quality team since 2005 (the 2006 team was disgustingly overrated en route to their shellacking at the hands of LSU).

[Sonny Cheeba]

To be honest I hate BOTH Notre Dame and USC. But Notre Dame is a joke, Charlie Weis is a joke, their exclusive TV contract can suck a dick, same with pretty boy Brady Quinn, you know the drill.

And Sonic, Willingham's firing CLEARLY had racial issues, probably 90% of ND alum and boosters surely did not want him hired in the first place.

[SONIC]

Oh gosh. Do you fucking understand that USC has the west coast on lock down? I guess you don't. Let's see: would you rather go to USC, an NFL FACTORY. Or go to the Huskies?

I never mentioned anything about USC in my post that you responded to.

And guess what he was fired partially because of his race. TY was giving three years to turn around the program. Yet, a scrub like Bob Davie had 5 full seasons, and currently Charlie Weiss is entering is fifth year. So what the fuck did they fire TY after three seasons?

Well they DID give Ty a chance but after seeing recruiting down to an all-time low at Notre Dame and the losses in a season under Ty were increasing the next two years, they had to do somehting about it like every school would do, fire Ty before he could do any more damage to the program. Yes, Bob Davie was a scrub, but he was not as bad as Ty. Here were Davie's 5 years as Notre Dame head coach.

1997: 7-6 (Lost Independence Bowl)
1998: 9-3 (Lost Gator Bowl)
1999: 5-7
2000: 9-3 (Lost Fiesta Bowl)
2001: 5-6

And here were Ty Willingham's years at Notre Dame

2002: 10-3 (Lost Gator Bowl)
2003: 5-7
2004: 6-6

Bob Davie: 35-25
Ty Willingham: 21-16

Face facts-- Notre Dame never gave TY a full shot to succeed... and part of that shit has to do with Race.

The university made a mistake by giving Bob Davie more years because they wanted to take a chance to see if Davie was going to improve, he didn't so they fired him. After Willingham's 3rd year & after recruiting slipped drastically under Ty at Notre Dame, they had no choice but to fire him.

For the record, Notre Dame is not Notre Dame anymore. There are not drawing the players they once were. They no longer win with traditional notre dame ball as everybody is going to some sort of spread or wide open offense. They don't have the speed at corner or on defense to keep up with power teams like USC, Gators and such. They don't have playmakers on offense that is going to scare anybody.

NOTRE DAME will continue to get fucked IN THE ASS on a yearly basis by USC AND any other team that has playmakers.

They can take that shiny helmet and go fuck themselves....

Take a look at the players Charlie Weis has been recruiting and you will see that he has quite a bit of 4-5 star players on both sides of the ball, and they've been recruiting nationally. This year, take a look at Michael Floyd & Golden Tate and you'll see two potent wide receivers at our disposal. A RB tandem of Armando Allen, James Aldridge, & Robert Hughes, gives us the ability to run the ball down opposing defenses, shall I go on?

I'll take the shiny golden helmet over the USC fans stupid-ass 2-finger hand sign as well as their shitty & uber-annoying fight songs, Tribute to Troy & Fight On!, any day of the week.

[SONIC]

To be honest I hate BOTH Notre Dame and USC. But Notre Dame is a joke, Charlie Weis is a joke, their exclusive TV contract can suck a dick, same with pretty boy Brady Quinn, you know the drill.

Like I said, Charlie may not be the best head coach in the country, but I'd take him over dumbass Ty LOSINGham hands down. Quite frankly I could care less if our eclusive TV contract with NBC pisses off the Notre Dame haters, especially considering that ESPN just creams all over USC every chance they get.

And Sonic, Willingham's firing CLEARLY had racial issues, probably 90% of ND alum and boosters surely did not want him hired in the first place.

After seeing how Willingham recruited & the gameday planning he had, I felt it was the worst decision to hire him in the first place.

[UC]

You have to admit that Notre Dame has been a poor team yet they get thrown on TV ahead of games more people want to watch. Notre Dame v. Navy? You have to be an Irish fan to want to sit through that...

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Notre Dame has fielded an extremely boring brand of football onto the field...

They suck.

And some of Weis best players (or best) players were Willingham recruits.

[GenRaider]

I never mentioned anything about USC in my post that you responded to.

So fucking what. I simply used USC as a study case, that is, a school which will continue to stomp all over Notre Dame until your little school starts to get real players that have the ability to play at the next level. NOTRE DAME has been completely irreleveland and they continue to take it up the ass, give a B team performance aganist USC... USC was down for a number of years, yet they are back. I hate those cocksuckers but that is an NFL FACTORY on the west coast. What is Notre Dame? Nothing more than an old ass institute that doesn't want to change.



Well they DID give Ty a chance but after seeing recruiting down to an all-time low at Notre Dame and the losses in a season under Ty were increasing the next two years, they had to do somehting about it like every school would do, fire Ty before he could do any more damage to the program. Yes, Bob Davie was a scrub, but he was not as bad as Ty. Here were Davie's 5 years as Notre Dame head coach.

1997: 7-6 (Lost Independence Bowl)
1998: 9-3 (Lost Gator Bowl)
1999: 5-7
2000: 9-3 (Lost Fiesta Bowl)
2001: 5-6

And here were Ty Willingham's years at Notre Dame

2002: 10-3 (Lost Gator Bowl)
2003: 5-7
2004: 6-6

Bob Davie: 35-25
Ty Willingham: 21-16

Thanks for proving my motherfucking point. Your little shitty boy Davie was giving FIVE FULL YEARS, whereby, TY, on the other hand did not have the type of leeway of Bob Davie. Furthermore, Notre Dame and its kool aid drinking boosters are still under the impression that this is 1988. They still believe that with the name NOTRE DAME people will come. Bullshit. You can spin your shit anyways you want, but guess what, with the limited amount of time TY had and with restrictions, you cannot compare Davie to Ty. If both men had five years than maybe you would have an argument, but you don't.



The university made a mistake by giving Bob Davie more years because they wanted to take a chance to see if Davie was going to improve, he didn't so they fired him. After Willingham's 3rd year & after recruiting slipped drastically under Ty at Notre Dame, they had no choice but to fire him.

Why the hell hasn't Weiss been fired yet? The only success that Weiss had (his first year) was under most of TY's recruits. 3-4 years later, with a different recruiting class and the school's team still is horrid. What is your excuse for Weiss?



Take a look at the players Charlie Weis has been recruiting and you will see that he has quite a bit of 4-5 star players on both sides of the ball, and they've been recruiting nationally. This year, take a look at Michael Floyd & Golden Tate and you'll see two potent wide receivers at our disposal. A RB tandem of Armando Allen, James Aldridge, & Robert Hughes, gives us the ability to run the ball down opposing defenses, shall I go on?

Oh you are fucking swinging On Weiss' cock if you believe you have NFL caliber players. What you have is a bunch of scrubs who can barely beat mediocre teams. Stop pimping a bitch ass team that is not going to win 9 games next season. Stop pimping an old ass institute that refuses to join a conference. The only people who believe Notre Dame is on the rise is kool aid drinking fans, bitch ass boosters and dumbasses that attend Notre Dame. Again, fuck them. They haven't won shit in over 20 years - face the fucking facts.

I'll take the shiny golden helmet over the USC fans stupid-ass 2-finger hand sign as well as their shitty & uber-annoying fight songs, Tribute to Troy & Fight On!, any day of the week.

And I'm sure USC fans (not me) would take the rings they have collected What has NOTRE DAME done except live off of a shitty rep from the Lou Holtz era of football?

Fucking ridiculous.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Well they DID give Ty a chance but after seeing recruiting down to an all-time low at Notre Dame and the losses in a season under Ty were increasing the next two years, they had to do somehting about it like every school would do, fire Ty before he could do any more damage to the program. Yes, Bob Davie was a scrub, but he was not as bad as Ty. Here were Davie's 5 years as Notre Dame head coach.

1997: 7-6 (Lost Independence Bowl)
1998: 9-3 (Lost Gator Bowl)
1999: 5-7
2000: 9-3 (Lost Fiesta Bowl)
2001: 5-6

And here were Ty Willingham's years at Notre Dame

2002: 10-3 (Lost Gator Bowl)
2003: 5-7
2004: 6-6

Bob Davie: 35-25
Ty Willingham: 21-16

Davie has 2 extra seasons and 14 more wins. Given 2 extra seasons with the talent he'd assembled, I don't see why Ty can't at least put up something comparable. I think the teams ND had the next 2 seasons were shoe-in's for 9-10 wins just given their awful schedule and superior talent to the awful teams on their schedule.

In other words, you've proved nothing.

The university made a mistake by giving Bob Davie more years because they wanted to take a chance to see if Davie was going to improve, he didn't so they fired him. After Willingham's 3rd year & after recruiting slipped drastically under Ty at Notre Dame, they had no choice but to fire him.

And hire an NFL offensive coordinator whose recruiting has been worse than Willingham's thus far? What kind of sense does that make?

Take a look at the players Charlie Weis has been recruiting and you will see that he has quite a bit of 4-5 star players on both sides of the ball, and they've been recruiting nationally. This year, take a look at Michael Floyd & Golden Tate and you'll see two potent wide receivers at our disposal. A RB tandem of Armando Allen, James Aldridge, & Robert Hughes, gives us the ability to run the ball down opposing defenses, shall I go on?

And your offensive and defensive linemen are...?

ND isn't equipped to beat actual good teams.

I'll take the shiny golden helmet over the USC fans stupid-ass 2-finger hand sign as well as their shitty & uber-annoying fight songs, Tribute to Troy & Fight On!, any day of the week.

Annoying? The Notre Dame fight song sounds like the shit they play in line at Universal Studios.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7csGhMQoQms

After about 10 seconds, I expect to hear "Ladies and gentlemen..." followed by the rules of the ride, then the same message repeated in Spanish, French and Farsi.

[SONIC]

Ty may have recruited the players that were Weis's best players since his hiring but what about when Ty, HIMSELF, was their head coach? They didn't do shit. Now take a look again at how Ty did in Washington? Washington was the worst team in a major conference last year, bar none.

Weis's recruits are still young, and their coordinators they had a hand in hindering the team's success as a whole. Mike Minter for def. coord. when Weis was starting? Haywood when he was off. coord. last year? Forget it. Sure Weis needs work on his playcalling but he is not as bad of a gameplanner as you think, he has gotten the Irish to 3 bowls in the first 4 years of him being head coach. Talk about Notre Dame's weak scheduling, they played Navy for decades & decades, it's a tradition. They play USC every year, Boston College, Stanford, both of those teams EVERY YEAR. Lot of guys think that when the Fighting Irish signs to face a team, it takes place immediately or the following year, NO, it takes 5 years after the signing to play a team before they play each other, reality check. Take a look at teams like USC, all the other teams in the PAC-10 aren't better than who Notre Dame plays either and don't get me started on USC's past out-of-conference schools. Why hasn't Weis been fired yet? At least the program is on the rise, just made a bowl last year and broke the school's bowl losing streak, sure against Hawaii at the Hawaii Bowl, but so fucking what? Oh, and Weis continues to go above and beyond to recruit nationally. If we were "racist", then we would have NEVER gave Willingham a chance in the first place. But we did and look what happened, Willingham wrecked the Notre Dame program, the recruiting outside of Brady Quinn, Samardzija, Walker, Zbikowski, etc. was absolutely abysmal, we even lost guys to schools like Boston College for fuck's sake.

[UC]

Ty may have recruited the players that were Weis's best players since his hiring but what about when Ty, HIMSELF, was their head coach? They didn't do shit. Now take a look again at how Ty did in Washington? Washington was the worst team in a major conference last year, bar none.

Weis's recruits are still young, and their coordinators they had a hand in hindering the team's success as a whole. Mike Minter for def. coord. when Weis was starting? Haywood when he was off. coord. last year? Forget it. Sure Weis needs work on his playcalling but he is not as bad of a gameplanner as you think, he has gotten the Irish to 3 bowls in the first 4 years of him being head coach. Talk about Notre Dame's weak scheduling, they played Navy for decades & decades, it's a tradition. They play USC every year, Boston College, Stanford, both of those teams EVERY YEAR. Lot of guys think that when the Fighting Irish signs to face a team, it takes place immediately or the following year, NO, it takes 5 years after the signing to play a team before they play each other, reality check. Take a look at teams like USC, all the other teams in the PAC-10 aren't better than who Notre Dame plays either and don't get me started on USC's past out-of-conference schools. Why hasn't Weis been fired yet? At least the program is on the rise, just made a bowl last year and broke the school's bowl losing streak, sure against Hawaii at the Hawaii Bowl, but so fucking what? Oh, and Weis continues to go above and beyond to recruit nationally. If we were "racist", then we would have NEVER gave Willingham a chance in the first place. But we did and look what happened, Willingham wrecked the Notre Dame program, the recruiting outside of Brady Quinn, Samardzija, Walker, Zbikowski, etc. was absolutely abysmal, we even lost guys to schools like Boston College for fuck's sake.

Whoa, whoa, don't swing that rally monkey too fast! Did you just state that Notre Dame plays better opponents year in and year out than PAC 10 teams? And since when is USC bad in out of conference games? I'm not an SC fan but I would like to see some statistical back-up to prove this claim. Notre Dame would not make it to a bowl game if they were in the WAC but they stand a decent chance most years because they play cupcakes on their schedule. Notre Dame's horrible SOS is evident when you see how often they get punked in their bowl games.

I'm not a ND hater, but come on, come correct here. And Weis' has busted with the golden boy... Jimmy Clausen.

[SONIC]

Whoa, whoa, don't swing that rally monkey too fast! Did you just state that Notre Dame plays better opponents year in and year out than PAC 10 teams? And since when is USC bad in out of conference games? I'm not an SC fan but I would like to see some statistical back-up to prove this claim. Notre Dame would not make it to a bowl game if they were in the WAC but they stand a decent chance most years because they play cupcakes on their schedule. Notre Dame's horrible SOS is evident when you see how often they get punked in their bowl games.

I'm not a ND hater, but come on, come correct here. And Weis' has busted with the golden boy... Jimmy Clausen.

If we really do schedule cupcakes, so what? Have you seen how many cupcakes USC played against in the past this decade, specifically earlier when Carroll first became USC head coach? In the past we have scheduled against teams from prestigious conferences like the SEC, Big XII, Big Ten, etc. if Notre Dame was in a conference like the Big Ten we would have went to a bowl every year but we didn't because we have played our share of tough teams. I don't need to state playing USC because we do it year after year after year. Like I said in another post, we play teams like Stanford, Boston College, & Navy EVERY SINGLE YEAR cupcake or quality team because they have been three of our traditional rivals. North Carolina is one of the top teams in the nation, they are ranked for your information. It's not like we are Penn State or Michigan or Ohio State where they play Div. II opponents every year to pad their stats.

Let's take a look at USC's past out of conference teams:

2003: Hawaii & BYU
2004: Virginia Tech, Colorado State, BYU
2005: Hawaii, Arkansas

Here is just an example of what I've been saying about the teams we schedule against, Notre Dame's schedule in 2005 (Weis' first year no less)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Notre_Dame_Fighting_Irish_football_team

#25 Pittsburgh, #3 Michigan, #20 Purdue were the ranked teams we played

We went 9-3 in that year (that record includes our loss to Ohio State) imagine what it would've been had Ty Willingham been our head coach still :rolleyes:

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Ty may have recruited the players that were Weis's best players since his hiring but what about when Ty, HIMSELF, was their head coach? They didn't do shit. Now take a look again at how Ty did in Washington? Washington was the worst team in a major conference last year, bar none.

Ty didn't have a chance to play a full season with "his" team. By the time he got the pieces together he'd been fired.

And despite his lack of success in Washington (where it's currently IMPOSSIBLE to recruit), it's not like he was fired for a better coach. Weis' qualifications as a college coach when he was hired were...?

Weis's recruits are still young, and their coordinators they had a hand in hindering the team's success as a whole. Mike Minter for def. coord. when Weis was starting? Haywood when he was off. coord. last year? Forget it. Sure Weis needs work on his playcalling but he is not as bad of a gameplanner as you think, he has gotten the Irish to 3 bowls in the first 4 years of him being head coach.

So recruits being young is an excuse for Weis, but not Willingham, who's recruits were going into their freshmen and sophomore seasons when he was fired?

Man, who gives a fuck about the 3 bowls? Two of those bowl games were absolute duds, and in the one BCS bowl they made, everyone said they were gifted it because of name value and it showed on the field when they were humiliated.

Talk about Notre Dame's weak scheduling, they played Navy for decades & decades, it's a tradition.

They play all 4 service academies

They play USC every year, Boston College, Stanford, both of those teams EVERY YEAR. Lot of guys think that when the Fighting Irish signs to face a team, it takes place immediately or the following year, NO, it takes 5 years after the signing to play a team before they play each other, reality check.

They pepper USC in with a bunch of no-name schools, and they're an independent so they can schedule whoever they want. They don't even schedule a lot of major conference teams.

Take a look at teams like USC, all the other teams in the PAC-10 aren't better than who Notre Dame plays either and don't get me started on USC's past out-of-conference schools.

Are you REALLY going to go there when it comes to USC's out of conference scheduling? They've been one of the most respectable OOC scheduling teams of the last few years.

Notre Dame plays opponents that teams in real BCS confences would be embarassed to schedule.

Oh and as for that "weak" Pac-10 (the same Pac-10 that went undefeated in those bowl games you value so much)

The Pac-10 has a winning record vs. every BCS conference since 2000.
The Pac-10 is 9-2 in BCS bowls since 2000.
The Pac-10 has the highest all-time bowl game winning percentage of all FBS conferences.*
Moreover, as for this season, of the automatic qualifying BCS conferences:

The Pac-10 has the most teams -- six -- without any FCS (I-AA) opponents.
The Pac-10 plays the lowest percentage (13 percent) of nonconference games against FCS foes.
The Pac-10 plays the highest percentage of nonconference games (50 percent) games BCS opponents.

Why hasn't Weis been fired yet? At least the program is on the rise, just made a bowl last year and broke the school's bowl losing streak, sure against Hawaii at the Hawaii Bowl, but so fucking what?

How is that a "so fucking what?" It's the Hawaii bowl and they only got invited because ND sells tickets.

Oh, and Weis continues to go above and beyond to recruit nationally. If we were "racist", then we would have NEVER gave Willingham a chance in the first place.

This argument was already put to bed. No one is saying ND's AD is racist, but the racist boosters/alumni (and if you deny the history of racism at Notre Dame you are a fucking idiot) pressured the AD to get rid of Willingham.

But we did and look what happened, Willingham wrecked the Notre Dame program, the recruiting outside of Brady Quinn, Samardzija, Walker, Zbikowski, etc. was absolutely abysmal, we even lost guys to schools like Boston College for fuck's sake.

You're going to lose them to more schools than that if Weis stays in charge.

[SONIC]

Playing all 4 service academies? That is such an over-exaggeration. They only play Navy every year. Sure they might play Army & Air Force once every many years but a 4th service academy? Call me a fucking idiot for saying Notre Dame isn't racist, even after I stated my opinions, pot meet kettle.

I have stated this multiple times, Ty Willingham is one of the worst in-game head coaches I have ever seen in college football. If you really paid attention to Notre Dame when Willingham was head coach, you would know how much of a dumbass Willingham was.

And where you said "recruits" I said "off./def. coordinators" and they were bad.

And if Notre Dame got put in schools because of their "name", it's not like they are the only one, look at teams like Ohio State and others that also got in and (unlike Notre Dame) got higher rankings in both AP & BCS polls than more deserving schools due to the legacy & prestige of those schools.

Gonna lose more recruits if Weis was in charge? Are you fucking kidding me? Take a look at NOW, Charlie Weis has even gotten recruits to come to Notre Dame when they were about to go to other schools. They've just signed 4-5 star defensive ends as of late.

[SONIC]

Okay, time for me to return the favor to the total epitome of college football darlings, the USC Trojans.

The pollsters are biased towards USC, for example during the 2008 season. USC lost to an unranked team while Gerogia lost to the #2 team in the country and guess what...they put their beloved Trojans ahead of UGA in the rankings when it happened.

Talk about Notre Dame's recruiting? Why not look at the tactics USC pulls out of its ass to recruit players by giving them improper benefits. I.E. Reggie Bush & his families given big gifts monetary & non-monetary to go to USC.

How about Pete Carroll hiring an NFL tactician to "help" them with their special teams?

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-07-30/ncaa-investigate-usc-s-employment-former-nfl-coach

The USC homers who constantly regurgitate their attacks on Notre Dame need to take a look in the mirror at their own school & its own skeletons in the closet.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Playing all 4 service academies? That is such an over-exaggeration. They only play Navy every year. Sure they might play Army & Air Force once every many years but a 4th service academy? Call me a fucking idiot for saying Notre Dame isn't racist, even after I stated my opinions, pot meet kettle.

Yes, I'm calling you a fucking idiot for being willfully ignorant to Notre Dame's history of racism as an academic institution that was going on years and years before Willingham was fired. Those racist students from back then make up the majority of current alums and boosters.

There aren't 4 service academies, that was just my bad. Still, the service academies have weight limits, so they play at a competitive disadvantage.

I have stated this multiple times, Ty Willingham is one of the worst in-game head coaches I have ever seen in college football. If you really paid attention to Notre Dame when Willingham was head coach, you would know how much of a dumbass Willingham was.

He's not a great in-game coach, but Weis is a poor college coach period. Weis does not know how to coach/deal with football at the college level and has proven it by only giving his first team's reps.

And if Notre Dame got put in schools because of their "name", it's not like they are the only one, look at teams like Ohio State and others that also got in and (unlike Notre Dame) got higher rankings in both AP & BCS polls than more deserving schools due to the legacy & prestige of those schools.

Saying "OH OTHER SCHOOLS DO IT SO IT'S OKAY" makes absolutely no sense.

Fuck Ohio State too.

Gonna lose more recruits if Weis was in charge? Are you fucking kidding me? Take a look at NOW, Charlie Weis has even gotten recruits to come to Notre Dame when they were about to go to other schools. They've just signed 4-5 star defensive ends as of late.

Notre Dame's current recruiting class was ranked 21st in the country in 2009. Not very impressive for a school that should be able to recruit on name value alone.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Okay, time for me to return the favor to the total epitome of college football darlings, the USC Trojans.

Hahahahaha, says the fucking NOTRE DAME fan.

The pollsters are biased towards USC, for example during the 2008 season. USC lost to an unranked team while Gerogia lost to the #2 team in the country and guess what...they put their beloved Trojans ahead of UGA in the rankings when it happened.

LMAO

Georgia lost 3 games in 2008, USC lost one.

NEXT!

Talk about Notre Dame's recruiting? Why not look at the tactics USC pulls out of its ass to recruit players by giving them improper benefits. I.E. Reggie Bush & his families given big gifts monetary & non-monetary to go to USC.

How about Pete Carroll hiring an NFL tactician to "help" them with their special teams?

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-football/article/2009-07-30/ncaa-investigate-usc-s-employment-former-nfl-coach

The USC homers who constantly regurgitate their attacks on Notre Dame need to take a look in the mirror at their own school & its own skeletons in the closet.

LOLOLOL

Okay, is a NOTRE DAME fan trying to tell anyone about cheap recruiting tactics? Seriously? That shit is like steroids in baseball.

BTW, these "USC homers..."

I'll have you know that the VAST MAJORITY of USC football fans are from Orange County, CA. Guess what team those guys root for during baseball season?

So, why is it when you're talking about Angels fans, you use phrases like "we are a laid back fan base," then go on to attack the exact same fan base. It makes shit for sense.

[Bump]

In fairness to Sonic, I will play devils advocate.

The "shared" fan base isn't a fair argument. Just because the majority of USC football fans are from OC doesn't mean they are baseball fans and vice versa.

Football, ESPECIALLY college football caters to a younger crowd. Whereas baseball games are more geared towards the family vibe.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

In fairness to Sonic, I will play devils advocate.

The "shared" fan base isn't a fair argument. Just because the majority of USC football fans are from OC doesn't mean they are baseball fans and vice versa.

Football, ESPECIALLY college football caters to a younger crowd. Whereas baseball games are more geared towards the family vibe.

Nah trust me, it's a VERY fair argument if you live here. Go to an Angels game and you'll see TONS of USC gear. On the flipside, go to an SC game and there are tons of dudes rocking Angel hats with their SC stuff (and nobody in LA wears Angels shit out of fashion). Go to Huntington Beach on a Saturday and it's cardinal and gold everywhere. The SC/OC connection is well-known and constantly talked about. Go to an Angel game and walk around the parking lot: you'll see trucks with Angels, Chargers and SC stickers, and BMW's and Benz's with USC license plate covers.

BTW, I disagree with your statement about college football catering to a younger crowd. That's not anywhere near true once you get outside of a student section, especially for a team like USC because they are treated like a big market pro team here.

[Bump]

^^

I will agree with you that this may hold true in SC. But in my experience, outside of the south where college football reigns supreme and even moms and pops rally around Saturday as opposed to Sunday, where I'm at it's a college kid game.

And I believe you are starting to see the trend in southern states now shift towards pro market teams like Carolina especially.

I know this is true in NY for upstate teams like Syracuse. The NY market is way more Pro than college. Patriots are way bigger than Boston College.

I would think SC is treated like a pro market because, well, they don't have a pro team. lol

[Doyers y Esleigher]

^^

I will agree with you that this may hold true in SC. But in my experience, outside of the south where college football reigns supreme and even moms and pops rally around Saturday as opposed to Sunday, where I'm at it's a college kid game.

And I believe you are starting to see the trend in southern states now shift towards pro market teams like Carolina especially.

I know this is true in NY for upstate teams like Syracuse. The NY market is way more Pro than college. Patriots are way bigger than Boston College.

I would think SC is treated like a pro market because, well, they don't have a pro team. lol

You can't compare NY/NJ to Southern CA in football because...

1. NY/NJ have two of the most historic and well-known NFL teams.
2. NY/NJ is not the prep-level football hotbed that Southern CA is.

Football in the California suburbs is a step below Texas in terms of how seriously people take it, and CA is part of the "Big 3" of high school football states (CA/TX/FL). Furthermore, Orange County high schools are practically USC factories.

Much like the Raiders may have more support in LA than in Oakland, USC has way more support in OC than in LA. The fact that OC is very suburban and very conservative (hell, the county was founded by white nationalists) makes them more of the towny crowd that tend to support college football.

And yes, because they are basically LA's pro team, anyone who wants to see live football must go to USC games, so the environment is more like an Ohio State, Michigan, Ole Miss, etc. than a Rutgers or Boston College. If you want a more student-oriented crowd, you gotta deal with the epic pain in the ass that is the Rose Bowl and watch UCLA.

[RaiderFootball]

here ya go Trojan fans.... Taylor Mays Facts (http://taylormaysfacts.com/facts)



my personal favorite.. "If you ever need help changing a tire call Taylor Mays. He jacks shit up." and "Taylor Mays doesn't need steroids. Steroids need Taylor Mays."

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Everything on that page is true.

And is Sonic defending ND's race issues even funnier now?

[SONIC]

Okay, I know I have been defending Charlie Weis...but that is up until now.

What I saw from him was a HORRIBLY coached game. He should be damn lucky that the new Purdue Boilermakers head coach isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. Talk about an ugly fucking game. He needs his playcalling duties relieved and hire an offensive coordinator who knows what the fuck he's doing. I am now at the point where I can say that if it wasn't for Charlie recruiting players left and right, his ass would've been fired.

[Nemesys]

Okay, I know I have been defending Charlie Weis...but that is up until now.

What I saw from him was a HORRIBLY coached game. He should be damn lucky that the new Purdue Boilermakers head coach isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. Talk about an ugly fucking game. He needs his playcalling duties relieved and hire an offensive coordinator who knows what the fuck he's doing. I am now at the point where I can say that if it wasn't for Charlie recruiting players left and right, his ass would've been fired.

Notre Dame won that game because Purdue's dumbass coach called a time out with :38 seconds left in the game when Notre Dame had no timeouts and was running around clueless as what to do next. Purdue doesn't call that timeout and ND loses that game, period. Granted, a win is a win, but Notre Dame cannot feel good about that win at all. There's a reason why Weis couldn't get an NFL head coaching job, he's just not a good coach.

ND's defense is virtually nonexistent and Jimmy Pickle is the most overrated QB in the nation.

[SONIC]

Notre Dame won that game because Purdue's dumbass coach called a time out with :38 seconds left in the game when Notre Dame had no timeouts and was running around clueless as what to do next. Purdue doesn't call that timeout and ND loses that game, period. Granted, a win is a win, but Notre Dame cannot feel good about that win at all. There's a reason why Weis couldn't get an NFL head coaching job, he's just not a good coach.

ND's defense is virtually nonexistent and Jimmy Pickle is the most overrated QB in the nation.

No, I never felt good about how we won that game, we were damn lucky to get out of Purdue with a win. Charlie Weis is a bad gameday coach and, like I said, needs to have his playcalling duties on offense revoked in favor of someone who knows what he is doing out there. He should've left Dayne Crist out there instead of Clausen when he was too gimpy to get out there and play.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Even though my Trojans were victims of this, I love all the top 10 losses. Great parity and I'm sure the BCS is freaking out.

[Tió Nook Nook]

cal as usual fucked up and choked.
wonder how the usc game will turn out?

[Padrino]

NAVY vs. Air Force this Saturday! Both teams are formidable now and I expect a great game. My Middies have won a string of games in a row over the Flyboys.

GO NAVY!..

[SONIC]

This Saturday, doesn't need any explanation other than that this is The Big One. Notre Dame vs. USC.

Time to Shake Down The Thunder

USC is going down

GO IRISH!

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Please USC, beat these overrated, lucky to be ranked, racist Irish Catholic babies out of the BCS rankings so they're never heard from again.

[Roberto Realphanez]

GODDAMN SONIC! What have you gotten yourself into? Clausen will choke.The crowd will overwhelm him if anything. USC-47.Notre Dame-28

[el boracho]

Please USC, beat these overrated, lucky to be ranked, racist Irish Catholic babies out of the BCS rankings so they're never heard from again.

ND could easily be a one win team...

[SONIC]

GODDAMN SONIC! What have you gotten yourself into? Clausen will choke.The crowd will overwhelm him if anything. USC-47.Notre Dame-28

Crowd will overwhelm him? Notre Dame will be playing at home. If anything they'll be supportive as possible towards him. USC may be favored, but I always have faith in my Irish no matter how tough their opponents may be.

[SONIC]

ND could easily be a one win team...

They won't have one win, in fact they only lost once this season.

[Roberto Realphanez]

My bad thought the game was in LA Sonic.The Domers still get "squished".The Trojans will do it for Stephon! for Stephon! and the fact they love whooping ND's ass in South Bend.I still say 47-28.USC.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Stafon! He's a mid-city LA product like yours truly. Went to Dorsey High School off Crenshaw on Rodeo. Nice place to get shot.

[SONIC]

My bad thought the game was in LA Sonic.The Domers still get "squished".The Trojans will do it for Stephon! for Stephon! and the fact they love whooping ND's ass in South Bend.I still say 47-28.USC.

Eh, it's all good bro.

I have a good feeling that we will make it closer than you think.

[Roberto Realphanez]

Is quarterbacking lacking so much in the NCAA(Kevin Riley aside) that Clausen has jumped to 2nd in Heisman voting?

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Kevin Riley looks TERRIBLE.

Clausen's statistics are big this year (though college football statistics are impossible to compare because of the conferences) and he's a big name, so he's going to get Heisman consideration. I have an issue with the Heisman system as a whole because guys are announced as "candidates" when the season starts, which IMO is ridiculous.

[Roberto Realphanez]

That's why i put Riley aside.I'm a CAL fan, and yes!he's been terrible.I could see Miami's qb getting some late bids if they continue to win.The "true" number 2 in Heisman voting plays this Saturday.Colt McCoy, who is starting to rise up as "one-to-watch".I like Tebow's "attitude" but McCoy to me, is more NFL-ready...

[SONIC]

That's why i put Riley aside.I'm a CAL fan, and yes!he's been terrible.I could see Miami's qb getting some late bids if they continue to win.The "true" number 2 in Heisman voting plays this Saturday.Colt McCoy, who is starting to rise up as "one-to-watch".I like Tebow's "attitude" but McCoy to me, is more NFL-ready...

Sam Bradford would be considered as one of the heavy favorites if it wasn't for his injury. It will come down to Tim Tebow & Colt McCoy for the Heisman. McCoy doesn't have an arm and Tebow's passes are inaccurate as hell but is best known as a running QB on the latest college football dynasty, the Florida Gators.

[SONIC]

Is quarterbacking lacking so much in the NCAA(Kevin Riley aside) that Clausen has jumped to 2nd in Heisman voting?

Clausen won't get the Heisman this year. But next year he should be a favorite.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Give it to Mark Sanchez since he would have been the best QB in this class by a long shot.

If I had my choice between Tebow, Harris, Clausen, and McCoy, I'd say Clausen is the best pure QB of the group, Harris is the most exciting, McCoy is the fastest and Tebow is the best competitor, so I give it to Tebow.

[Roberto Realphanez]

McCoy will vault forward this Saturday.He's poised.he's feeling the attention, and he manages a game the way i wished J-Fat could.Bradford will be blitzed relentlessly all day, and his mobility will be in question.Texas-37.Oklahoma-20

[SONIC]

McCoy will vault forward this Saturday.He's poised.he's feeling the attention, and he manages a game the way i wished J-Fat could.Bradford will be blitzed relentlessly all day, and his mobility will be in question.Texas-37.Oklahoma-20

The Red River Shootout is gonna be some good shit. I'll be paying CLOSE attention to BOTH Colt McCoy AND Sam Bradford. Their arms, accuracies, pocket presence, game-managing, etc. are what I will examine throughout the whole game.

[Roberto Realphanez]

look forward to your assesment.i'll be checking your boy,Clausen too.can he handle USC's pressure upfront, and will he be able to outwit the fast, and active db crew of the Trojans.That's his biggest obstacle.Staying "cool" & " alert" back there cause they'll be coming for his butt.

[SONIC]

look forward to your assesment.i'll be checking your boy,Clausen too.can he handle USC's pressure upfront, and will he be able to outwit the fast, and active db crew of the Trojans.That's his biggest obstacle.Staying "cool" & " alert" back there cause they'll be coming for his butt.

Also pay attention to the playcalling. Charlie Weis's vanilla offensive playcalling has resulted in drives ending sooner than what it could've been.

[Roberto Realphanez]

Well any chance ya'll have will be countering on defense and disrupting passing lanes, and pressuring Barkley.He's a steady kid, but has he really been "attacked!".Washington doesn't count.That was an "aberation"

[SONIC]

Well any chance ya'll have will be countering on defense and disrupting passing lanes, and pressuring Barkley.He's a steady kid, but has he really been "attacked!".Washington doesn't count.That was an "aberation"

Barkeley isn't experienced, but when he is a junior he'll be great. Our D.C., Tenuto, promised blitzing and hasn't shown me any of it. Washington didn't count because they had Corp out there at QB instead of Barkeley.

Use multiple defensive schemes to confuse the off. line & Barkeley. Have the CBs jam the WRs using Press Coverage at the LOS.

[Roberto Realphanez]

Sonic Raider...College Gameday's "Lost" Analyst.I feel you.It's sad you'll probably see none of what you want.ND can't get "punked" by USC's swagger...It's gonna be a good one.
Peace Sonic

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I'm not worried about Barkley. No crowd he'll face for the rest of his career will be as rabid as the record-setting OSU crowd this year. SC is more physically gifted and has a much better coach, but we'll see how it plays out. I like to think SC will take over early and not look back. If they let ND into the game late, the crowd will go apefuck.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

The Red River Shootout is gonna be some good shit. I'll be paying CLOSE attention to BOTH Colt McCoy AND Sam Bradford. Their arms, accuracies, pocket presence, game-managing, etc. are what I will examine throughout the whole game.

Why? We're not drafting either one of them and neither is the best NFL QB in the upcoming draft. The Big 12 is overrated because of the sore lack of defense.

[IndyRaider]

Notre Lame....... are you serious ??? :roflmao

Once again they are WAY overrated. this game isn't even going to be close. Trojans are going to beat the hell out of the irish this week.

jimmy klausen :nono:

[Sonny Cheeba]

Kevin Riley looks TERRIBLE.

Clausen's statistics are big this year (though college football statistics are impossible to compare because of the conferences) and he's a big name, so he's going to get Heisman consideration. I have an issue with the Heisman system as a whole because guys are announced as "candidates" when the season starts, which IMO is ridiculous.
The whole system is flawed. Every single year there is a big controversy about who plays whom in the BCS bowls, and the NCAA refuses to budge. Last year was great, you had Oklahoma in the title game even though they lost to Texas. UT legitimately had a case there, but the response was "Well you guys lost to TT and Oklahoma beat them, so they must be better than you!"

College football is great and some of the rivalries are amazing, but the system is fucked up and every year someone gets left out. Imagine college hoops without March Madness. They need to stop with this fucking nonsense and adopt a playoff system, I'd love to see something like VA Tech vs Boise St in the title game. But unless you're ranked top-5 preseason, you basically have no chance. It's stupid.

[Roberto Realphanez]

I miss the Bluebonnet Bowl & The Citrus Bowl...what the fuck is a: Pizza Hut Supreme Cheese Stuffed Bowl, brought to you by the DQ.The SYSTEM & THE NCAA Bowl games are a Raider (laughingstock)..

[SONIC]

Man, Notre Dame came within a TOUCHDOWN of tieing the game with one second left.

Oh well, good game USC fans

[Tió Nook Nook]

if you take away jahvid best's 2 big plays, he had 16 rushes for 9 yards, and 1 rec for 0.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Man, Notre Dame came within a TOUCHDOWN of tieing the game with one second left.

Oh well, good game USC fans

The officiating on the last drive was some of the worst I've ever seen. They tried to give ND a shot and still failed.

But I bet Notre Dame fans defend Weis by saying "HE'S ALMOST BEAT SC TWICE!"

[SONIC]

The officiating on the last drive was some of the worst I've ever seen. They tried to give ND a shot and still failed.

But I bet Notre Dame fans defend Weis by saying "HE'S ALMOST BEAT SC TWICE!"

You've got to be kidding me. Tried to give ND a shot? Do you release how many breaks your team has got in the past few years in this matchup? Remember when the refs put the ball closer than it should in the year of the "Reggie Bush Push"? Back to this game...those were PAC-10 officials, they're gonna give USC every benefit of the doubt. And besides, on that hit to Robbie Parris, one of the USC players held him up so another Trojan could try and take him out, they did the exact same thing to Golden Tate earlier on.

I am not gonna defend Weis, almost doesn't count, either you did it or you did NOT, no middle ground and Weis did not and that's the bottom line. He & the defensive coordinator that we have must go, both of them.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

SC drew a few penalties in the 2nd half which were either ticky tack or downright crap. SC's defense still held so it doesn't matter. Matt Barkley's now won @ Ohio State and @ Notre Dame as a true freshman.

[SONIC]

SC drew a few penalties in the 2nd half which were either ticky tack or downright crap. SC's defense still held so it doesn't matter. Matt Barkley's now won @ Ohio State and @ Notre Dame as a true freshman.

Barkeley is gonna be a great QB in college in the next few years. Opposing defenses better watch out.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Carroll's experiment worked. USC probably beats Washington with Barkley playing QB. They're talented enough to hide his issues and he seems to be picking up the game well.

I think SC rolls Oregon State at home. @ Oregon on Halloween is going to be a MASSIVE game. If Texas and Alabama take a loss at some point, SC running the table could lead them straight to Florida.

[SONIC]

Jimmy Clausen did very good and put up a valiant effort (even though we lost) and threw for 260 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions, all with a 24/43 C/ATT. What I saw out of Matt Barkley this game, as well as others, was all I needed to see for me to say that he will be a force to be reckoned with in college football for his next few years at Southern Cal.

Armando Allen Jr., while small, proved he is a tough little runner and won't go down easily. But Joe McKnight, that guy is a 6' bull.

Golden Tate was stepping up as always and I was stunned with how reliable and effective Robby Parris was. Easily his best game yet.

Only 3 passes to, easily one of our best players on offense, Kyle Rudolph? Not smart, should've gotten more thrown to him. Anthony McCoy of USC is just a wrecking ball for a TE. Man, is he a dominant TE. He'll make a good pro. Teams that are looking to draft a TE in the 2010 draft need to take a look at him.

Now to our defense, not a lot of blitzing, missed tackles, blown assignments, Tenuto needs to go after this season and get a Def. Coord. that will be willing to blitz more than what Tenuto promised to do. And Charlie, I'm sorry, but you just got to go. This had better be your last year. While your recruiting is top notch, your gameday management & playcalling suck.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

McCoy is alright. Keep in mind that Notre Dame really isn't that good.

[SONIC]

McCoy is alright. Keep in mind that Notre Dame really isn't that good.

Our defense is pathetic, they can't even stop an all-girls school from moving the ball against them. But our offense isn't bad, the only that is bad is the playcalling from Charlie Weis.

[SONIC]

BCS Standings Week 1

1. Florida Gators
2. Alabama Crimson Tide
3. Texas Longhorns
4. Boise State Broncos
5. Cincinnati Bearcats
6. Iowa Hawkeyes
7. USC Trojans
8. TCU Horned Frogs
9. LSU Tigers
10. Miami (FL) Hurricanes
11. Oregon Ducks
12. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
13. Penn State Nittany Lions
14. Virginia Tech Hokies
15. Oklahoma State Cowboys

[SONIC]

Boston College was supposed to be a pushover after watching them on offense & defense. But they were in the game for the most part because we allowed it. Charlie Weis is a terrible playcaller and needs to go ASAP. John Tenuto as well, his def. playcalling is absolutely horrendous and it doesn't get the best of our players. Seriously, all Charlie knows how to call our passes to the sideline & out-routes but no slants and no passes to Kyle Rudolph? WTF!?!?

At least we ended our losing streak to Boston College but it was not pretty at all how we won this game.

[SONIC]

BCS Standings Week 2

1. Florida Gators
2. Alabama Crimson Tide
3. Texas Longhorns
4. Iowa Hawkeyes
5. USC Trojans
6. TCU Horned Frogs
7. Boise State Broncos
8. Cincinnati Bearcats
9. LSU Tigers
10. Oregon Ducks
11. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
12. Penn State Nittany Lions
13. Virginia Tech Yellow Jackets
14. Oklahoma Yellow Jackets
15. Pittsburgh Panthers

[SONIC]

BCS Standings Week 3

1. Florida Gators
2. Texas Longhorns
3. Alabama Crimson Tide
4. Iowa Hawkeyes
5. Cincinnati Bearcats
6. TCU Horned Frogs
7. Boise State Broncos
8. Oregon Ducks
9. LSU Tigers
10. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
11. Penn State Nittany Lions
12. USC Trojans
13. Pittsburgh Panthers
14. Utah Utes
15. Houston Cougars

[Doyers y Esleigher]

That loss to Boise State is punching Oregon in the dick right now. The Ducks are definitely better than Iowa and Cincinnati.

[SONIC]

BCS Standings Week 4

1. Florida Gators
2. Alabama Crimson Tide
3. Texas Longhorns
4. TCU Horned Frogs
5. Cincinnati Bearcats
6. Boise State Broncos
7. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
8. LSU Tigers
9. USC Trojans
10. Iowa Hawkeyes
11. Ohio State Buckeyes
12. Pittsburgh Panthers
13. Oregon Ducks
14. Miami (FL) Hurricanes
15. Houston Cougars

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I'm kind of pissed that Florida and Texas were able to make such cupcake non-conference schedules. Somehow Florida had 7 home games, with an 8th at a neutral site that's hundreds of miles closer to their school. Once again, we'll play a national title game and the winner may not be the best team in the country.

[SONIC]

BCS Standings Week 5

1. Florida Gators
2. Alabama Crimson Tide
3. Texas Longhorns
4. TCU Horned Frogs
5. Cincinnati Bearcats
6. Boise State Broncos
7. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
8. LSU Tigers
9. Pittsburgh Panthers
10. Ohio State Buckeyes
11. Oregon Ducks
12. Oklahoma State Cowboys
13. Iowa Hawkeyes
14. Penn State Nittany Lions
15. Virginia Tech Hokies

[SONIC]

After seeing those dumb-ass personal foul penalties from the Fighting Irish throughout the game today, Charlie had lost all control of the team. Seriously, he & his dumb-ass def. coord. Tenuto both have to go after their final game this season. They are both retarded.

[SONIC]

BCS Standings Week 6

1. Florida Gators
2. Alabama Crimson Tide
3. Texas Longhorns
4. TCU Horned Frogs
5. Cincinnati Bearcats
6. Boise State Broncos
7. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
8. Oregon Ducks
9. Pittsburgh Panthers
10. Ohio State Buckeyes
11. Iowa Hawkeyes
12. Oklahoma State Cowboys
13. Penn State Nittany Lions
14. Virginia Tech Hokies
15. LSU Tigers

[Corndog]

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[Tió Nook Nook]

^^ going to be picked in the 3rd round by the raiders

[SONIC]

BCS Standings Week 7

1. Florida Gators
2. Alabama Crimson Tide
3. Texas Longhorns
4. TCU Horned Frogs
5. Cincinnati Bearcats
6. Boise State Broncos
7. Oregon Ducks
8. Ohio State Buckeyes
9. Iowa Hawkeyes
10. Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
11. Penn State Nittany Lions
12. Virginia Tech Hokies
13. LSU Tigers
14. BYU Cougars
15. Pittsburgh Panthers

[SONIC]

Notre Dame announces Brian Kelly to be next Fighting Irish Head Coach

Brian Kelly led Cincinnati to a 12-0 record this season.
Notre Dame has hired University of Cincinnati head coach Brian Kelly as its next football coach, according to the South Bend (Ind.) Tribune.

Kelly led the Bearcats to a 12-0 record this season. Cincinnati won the Big East title and will face Florida in the Sugar Bowl. His overall record at Cincinnati is 34-6 over three seasons. He also led the Bearcats to the Orange Bowl last season, a game that Cincinnati lost to Virginia Tech, 20-7.

Kelly coached previously at Central Michigan for three seasons with a record of 19-16, but he finished 9-4 in his final season and won a Mid-American Conference Championship.

Charlie Weis was fired by Notre Dame on Nov. 30 after going 35-27 over five seasons.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34369407/ns/sports-sporting_news/

[Padrino]

http://www.navygear.com/store/graphics/00000001/go_navy_beat_army_banner.jpg...

[SONIC]

Notre Dame & The U to renew rivalry

The Catholics vs. Convicts era is over, but one of the great college football rivalries of the 1980s is close to being resurrected.

Notre Dame and Miami are in discussions to play at Soldier Field in Chicago in 2012, the Chicago Tribune reported Thursday night.

The Associated Press, citing a person familiar with the negotiations, reported Friday that the programs are nearing a deal for a three-game series. The Soldier Field game would be followed by a home-and-home, likely in 2014 and 2016, the person told AP.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5187926

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Yay, we can remember when Notre Dame wasn't worthless cannon fodder.

[el boracho]

I want to see SC blow up the scoreboard on hawaii and make a statement . Fuck the sanctions.

[raidergator]

Just wanted to take the opportunity to say FUCK OHIO STATE and that #2 ranking..cant wait til they get woke the fuck up..and I hope soon..oh yeah GO BLUE..yeah FUCK RICH RODRIGUEZ While I'm at it..Thx for fucking up the tradition..fucker..Get a clue on the Word RIVALRY..Michigan State and The FUCKEYES own you..GODDAMNITALL..Im a freakin die hard Wolverine fan and Raiduh fan and now I get to wear paper bags over my head that coordinates with my Football jersey of the day..gut tells me its going to be another long year..

[Padrino]

Hail College Football!..

[silver & black]

Just wanted to take the opportunity to say FUCK OHIO STATE and that #2 ranking..cant wait til they get woke the fuck up..and I hope soon..oh yeah GO BLUE..yeah FUCK RICH RODRIGUEZ While I'm at it..Thx for fucking up the tradition..fucker..Get a clue on the Word RIVALRY..Michigan State and The FUCKEYES own you..GODDAMNITALL..Im a freakin die hard Wolverine fan and Raiduh fan and now I get to wear paper bags over my head that coordinates with my Football jersey of the day..gut tells me its going to be another long year..

Sorry Gator... muh Buckeyes are puttin' the whoopin' on Marshall...lol. Pryor looks awsome, and so does the O line.

[el boracho]

dam i thought monte kiffin would have done something with SCs defense. holyshit they are horrible. with an average defense they could possibly run the table and go undefeated. not goin to happen with this D

[Don]

Go Cal! Shane Vereen FTW!!

[raidergator]

Sorry Gator... muh Buckeyes are puttin' the whoopin' on Marshall...lol. Pryor looks awsome, and so does the O line.


Ya know Silver I would come back at ya with sumthin..but I aint got nuttin lol..when they gonna dig some dirt up on Tressell?..there has to be some NFL Jobs open right? LOL..I'm not banking on anything..Rodrigues should have his fate sealed in November..We wont keep his ass around as long as you guys kept Cooper..who I miss terribly..ha..What you think about Nebraska coming in?..Big 10 Championship game?..ya know they have to find neutral ground to play that game..Im Thinkin Indy..

[SONIC]

How the fuck does Notre Dame lose to the smallest Div. 1-A school in the entire country, Tulsa?

Horrible...Just Horrible

[Tió Nook Nook]

when your coach is a tard and makes tard calls, that's how.

[SONIC]

when your coach is a tard and makes tard calls, that's how.

tard calls isn't the words for it...passing it in the endzone when you could run the ball down and kick the field goal when you're down by 2 points?

[Sonny Cheeba]

Between Charlie Weis and this loosah, aren't they paying their coaches like $10 mil this year? Lmao, Notre Dame fuckin sucks! GOI!

[silver & black]

Damn! Can anyone beat Oregon!?

[Padrino]

NAVY looked like garbage against Duke, ftl. However, SDSU and NAVY will be bowl eligible this yeer, ftw...

[silver & black]

Hey, Gator... I'm cheering your Wolvuhreenz on, but they are letting me down badly. :nono: What gives???

[Dewn Coon]

Sawnick we are playing you guys in the bowl game! Two shitty azz teamzz goin at it lol. but you will lose written down;;;

[SONIC]

Sawnick we are playing you guys in the bowl game! Two shitty azz teamzz goin at it lol. but you will lose written down;;;

not only that, I read that both our teams signed on to renew their series beginning in a couple of years.

[Dewn Coon]

not only that, I read that both our teams signed on to renew their series beginning in a couple of years.

yeah. it starts in 2012

[Padrino]

NAVY looked like garbage against Duke, ftl. However, SDSU and NAVY will be bowl eligible this yeer, ftw...

It kind of sucks that both of my teams will play each other in the Poinsettia Bowl, but oh well.

Not sure who I'll root for, yet.

GO NAVY and SDSU!..

[Dewn Coon]

not only that, i read that both our teams signed on to renew their series beginning in a couple of years.

miami lickz nutsack. Jacory harris is a fuckin idiot.

[SONIC]

miami lickz nutsack. Jacory harris is a fuckin idiot.

Al Golden will make a good head coach for you

[Dewn Coon]

Al Golden will make a good head coach for you

well he has a shitload of work to do this fucking team is horrendous. Recruiting for miami has been fucking terrible instate - that has been the worst issue. Plus this team is full of lazy selfish fagz like jacory who have no discipline and heart. A lot of good players will probably leave for the NFL too this year.

The only good news out of this game is that Leonard Hankerson will continue to go under the radar since his qbs played like fucking dogshit. He could be there for the raiders in the 3rd round.

[raidergator]

Hey, Gator... I'm cheering your Wolvuhreenz on, but they are letting me down badly. :nono: What gives???

Dude ive told ya Michigan aint gonna win shit with Rich Rod at the Helm..lol they shoulda just stayed home yesterday..now with all the fucking around that AD is doing at Michigan..Harbaugh is probably gonna blow them off..considering there are several NFL jobs open...Yeah total humiliation yesterday..Michigan Football has officially hit rock Bottom..Craig James calling that game yesterday really bugged the fuck outta me..Campaigning for Rodriguez too keep his job..gimme a fucking break..the dude was a wrong hire from the getgo...Fucker can't recruit, obviously has no defensive philosophies what so ever...hinges his team's success on a running back/QB...I just hope that Michigan boosters get their coollective heads out of their asses and hire someone ( HINY HINT HINT)( MICHIGAN MAN) ahem cough JIM FUCKING HARBAUGH! lol..Harbaugh might have to start from ground zero...but know he is the right man for the job..understands the term RIVALRY..understands the concept BIG 10 Football..Rodriguez can take that fucking gimmicky offense and head back to West VA..oh yeah they dont want him there either..fuckit..I just want that dude..GONE

[Nemesys]

Dude ive told ya Michigan aint gonna win shit with Rich Rod at the Helm..lol they shoulda just stayed home yesterday..now with all the fucking around that AD is doing at Michigan..Harbaugh is probably gonna blow them off..considering there are several NFL jobs open...Yeah total humiliation yesterday..Michigan Football has officially hit rock Bottom..Craig James calling that game yesterday really bugged the fuck outta me..Campaigning for Rodriguez too keep his job..gimme a fucking break..the dude was a wrong hire from the getgo...Fucker can't recruit, obviously has no defensive philosophies what so ever...hinges his team's success on a running back/QB...I just hope that Michigan boosters get their coollective heads out of their asses and hire someone ( HINY HINT HINT)( MICHIGAN MAN) ahem cough JIM FUCKING HARBAUGH! lol..Harbaugh might have to start from ground zero...but know he is the right man for the job..understands the term RIVALRY..understands the concept BIG 10 Football..Rodriguez can take that fucking gimmicky offense and head back to West VA..oh yeah they dont want him there either..fuckit..I just want that dude..GONE

As a Buckeyes fan, I think Dick Rod should be given a lifetime contract.

[raidergator]

As a Buckeyes fan, I think Dick Rod should be given a lifetime contract.
:laugh: well yeah dude I woulda figured as much..fuck I still send John Cooper Christmas cards..lol

[Padrino]

I hope Meeshigan offers their HC job to Les Miles. My Aztecs can't afford to lose Brady Hoke. He's done a solid job with our defense and he could build a Top 25 team here. No doubt in my mind.

Grady is a Michigan man. He's been on record saying that it's his dream job, so I wouldn't be pissed at him if he leaves. TWT...

[Nemesys]

I hope Meeshigan offers their HC job to Les Miles. My Aztecs can't afford to lose Brady Hoke. He's done a solid job with our defense and he could build a Top 25 team here. No doubt in my mind.

Grady is a Michigan man. He's been on record saying that it's his dream job, so I wouldn't be pissed at him if he leaves. TWT...


I hear Dick Rod is looking for a job.


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r54/wretchedvoid/WVU/Michiganbailing-animated2.gif

[SONIC]

Today the 2011 campaign for my Fighting Irish begins with the USF Bulls becoming our first opponents.

Time to make a statement here

GO IRISH!

[SONIC]

Wow, I've never seen a head coach chew out one of his own players as much as Brian Kelly chewed out wr T.J. Jones yesterday...and rightfully so.

That was one of the sloppiest, most undisciplined, games I have seen from them in God knows what. Penalties, missed oppurtunities, miscues, turnovers, you name it...it killed us.

Looks like it could be another long season for the Irish. :(

[ErieRaidahz]

that coach looked like he was gonna literally have a heart attack

[SONIC]

that coach looked like he was gonna literally have a heart attack

I'm telling you he was ready to fucking kill him. Seriously.

[Tre Sictz]

Today the 2011 campaign for my Fighting Irish begins with the USF Bulls becoming our first opponents.

Time to make a statement here

GO IRISH!

FAIL.....:jlh:

[Doyers y Esleigher]

USF... LOLLLLLL

Notre Dame is done forever. They'll never get the high-level recruits they once did because there's little incentive to go to school there anymore. Chicks aren't hot, South Bend is a shitty town, ND has academic standards, etc.

[SONIC]

USF... LOLLLLLL

Notre Dame is done forever. They'll never get the high-level recruits they once did because there's little incentive to go to school there anymore. Chicks aren't hot, South Bend is a shitty town, ND has academic standards, etc.

Brian Kelly has been recruiting 5-star and 4-star recruits at key positions, including defensive end...something no head coach has done at Notre Dame in a long time.

Brian Kelly doesn't let how high the academic standards are become an excuse to not get anyone to commit to Notre Dame.

[Padrino]

SDSU and Navy with impressive wins to start off the season. Heeeel yeah...

[Bump]

Brian Kelly has been recruiting 5-star and 4-star recruits at key positions, including defensive end...something no head coach has done at Notre Dame in a long time.

Brian Kelly doesn't let how high the academic standards are become an excuse to not get anyone to commit to Notre Dame.

ND sucks...stfu...GOI...nobody wants to talk about them with you

[Dewn Coon]

Today the 2011 campaign for my Fighting Irish begins with the USF Bulls becoming our first opponents.

Time to make a statement here

GO IRISH!

fuck you

[Lil Joker]

DILLIGAFFATNDF? :pissed:

[Bump]

http://www.villageidiotsports.com/images/PlayLikeAnIdiot.JPG

[SONIC]

4 game winning streak for the Irish:headbang

[Dewn Coon]

4 game winning streak for the Irish:headbang

Yeah against power house teams too such as the air force academy and purdue.

[Bump]

4 game winning streak for the Irish:headbang

and they still suck....your college football team is a fucking joke.

[Lil Joker]

Fuck the Irizhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Dewn Coon]

and they still suck....your college football team is a fucking joke.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/usc/post/_/id/9708/trojans-take-shots-at-notre-dame

"At the end there, when they didn't call those timeouts, they just quit," USC linebacker Chris Galippo said. "And that's what Notre Dame football's about."

LMFAO

[silver & black]

I hope you're happy, Gator. :suicide: