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[el boracho]

lets talk some baseball....How about them DOYERS!!!!

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I'm writing the MLB preview for Fox Sports Radio. Ask me questions about your team and I'll break them down for you (I'm going to use pieces of my analysis here and on other forums in my report).

[el boracho]

so how about them Dodgers Hill? They looked good tonight...Wolf looked pretty good...

[Raiderette619]

Will my Padres ever stop acting like a typical Diego team and give me something to be proud of again? I've been a fan forever but I don't follow it as much as football. I want all my teams to do good though. The Lakers are the only ones that keep my hopes up. lol

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Offensively, the Dodgers have one true question mark: Matt Kemp. Andre Ethier and James Loney should continue to improve at a steady rate (as they have each year since 06), but Kemp has the tools to be better than both. Kemp is simply behind these guys baseball-wise. He's only been playing since high school and got drafted right after his senior year, so the intricacies of the game (intelligent base running, better outfield angles, hitting breaking pitches for power) are still coming to him. He won't have 600+ at-bats this year as long as Furcal stays healthy, so he'll need to raise his slugging percentage and HR rate. If he does this, the Dodgers are downright disgusting with the bats, especially in an offense-starved division.

The starting rotation has a lot of questions. Kuroda was effective, especially at home, but I don't think he's an ideal #1 starter. Billingsley gets a lot of crap for those poor performances against Philly but he was an outstanding #2 down the stretch. He's got to stop giving up too many walks. The similarity between Bills and Kuroda is they will typically cruise through innings 3-6 if they get through 1-2 unscathed.

The Kershaw situation can go one of two ways...

1. He'll crumble having been forced into the spotlight too early.
2. He'll settle in, knowing from day 1 he's in the rotation, and have a solid year.

We know he'll eventually be the staff ace (anyone who's seen his stuff couldn't disagree), it's just a matter of when.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Will my Padres ever stop acting like a typical Diego team and give me something to be proud of again? I've been a fan forever but I don't follow it as much as football. I want all my teams to do good though. The Lakers are the only ones that keep my hopes up. lol

The Padres don't project well this year, but they've got some talent. Adrian Gonzalez is the best first basemen in the National League next to Albert Pujols. If not for offense-killing PETCO Park, Gonzalez could easily be a 45+ home run hitter (he hit 36 last year). The Padres don't have much else on offense, especially in the outfield.

I predict Jake Peavy will be dealt this year, possibly even by mid-May if the Padres look to fall out of contention early. Ownership cannot afford to keep his contract on the books, and several contenders would give SD a decent package of prospects (which the Padres desperately need) for a legit #1 starter with a multi-year deal already in place. The only way roadblock between Peavy and a trade to a contender would be injury, which Peavy has a history of. Speaking of pitcher health, I'm interested in seeing if Chris Young can hold up and show the same promise he did back in 2007.

That said, the Padres simply don't have the talent to compete with Arizona and San Francisco's outstanding rotations, and LA's potent offense.

[el boracho]

nice write up on Los Doyers Hill....Fox will be proud ha...

[Sonny Cheeba]

I still follow baseball but not nearly as much as I used to. I've been a Blue Jays fan for 20 years but they haven't even made the fuckin playoffs since winning back to back titles in '92 and '93. Halladay is a workhorse pitcher, you know he's always gonna show up, but nothing much else is behind him. And now they have the damn Devil Rays to compete against too, I smell another 4th place finish in the AL East.

[Raiderette619]

The Padres don't project well this year, but they've got some talent. Adrian Gonzalez is the best first basemen in the National League next to Albert Pujols. If not for offense-killing PETCO Park, Gonzalez could easily be a 45+ home run hitter (he hit 36 last year). The Padres don't have much else on offense, especially in the outfield.

I predict Jake Peavy will be dealt this year, possibly even by mid-May if the Padres look to fall out of contention early. Ownership cannot afford to keep his contract on the books, and several contenders would give SD a decent package of prospects (which the Padres desperately need) for a legit #1 starter with a multi-year deal already in place. The only way roadblock between Peavy and a trade to a contender would be injury, which Peavy has a history of. Speaking of pitcher health, I'm interested in seeing if Chris Young can hold up and show the same promise he did back in 2007.

That said, the Padres simply don't have the talent to compete with Arizona and San Francisco's outstanding rotations, and LA's potent offense.

hmm very interesting and lots of good info here Hill. Thanks!

[silver & black]

How about my Indians MrHill?

[el boracho]

dodgers picked up their opener....kuroda looked pretty good....this is going to be a real good year for the blue crew...

[TruR8r]

Dodgers beat the sorry ass Padres.:619:

[el boracho]

Dodgers beat the sorry ass Padres.:619:

Hell yeah...Fxck SD!!!

[Raiderette619]

Dodgers beat the sorry ass Padres.:619:

Grrrr :pissed: That was awful. I'm so glad I didn't go to the game after all


Hell yeah...Fxck SD!!!

Hey Hey watch it there....:2guns

[Padrino]

It'll be interesting to see what Randy Wolf and Chris Young can do tonight. Props to Kuroda on a clutch opening day! Loney, Ethier and Kemp had big hits and Kemp had a web gem.

Anyone going to any of the games down here this week? I'm thinking about taking a half day on Thursday.

GO BLUE!..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

LOL@ the sorry ass Padres. Not only do they lose their championship game (Opening Day w/ Peavy was their only chance to play in front of a sold out house and actually win this year), but their fans got out-drawn by Dodgers fans in their own freaking ballpark. Biggest crowd in PETCO history and it looked like the only Padres fans were in the season seats around home plate.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

How about my Indians MrHill?

Here's some notes I made on them.

Cleveland Indians
Will Carl Pavano stay healthy? If not, the Indians rotation lacks the depth to replace him. Cliff Lee and Fausto Carmona will need to carry the load and keep the Indians competitive in a tough division.
Speaking of health, can Kerry Wood stay on the field and close games? If he can, the Tribe should have a solid bullpen.
The Indians have talent all over their lineup. Grady Sizemore will lead off again, despite 30+ home run power and an .876 OPS last year. This puts C/1B Victor Martinez in position to provide middle of the order power.
Will Asdrubal Cabrera continue his hot hitting? He had an .862 OPS in the 2nd half of last season. At 22, he’s got plenty of time to improve, but he may become a vital piece this season at the bottom of the order.

[Padrino]

Just found out that I'll be at Chavez Ravine for opening day! My uncle hooked it up. Heeeeel yeah...

[Raiderette619]

I've been to plenty of Padres games vs the Dodgers...normally there are lots of Dodger fans but last nite must have been the most ever.
You are right Hill..this was their chance...damn Typical Diego team. Oh well
Goo Padres!! LOL

[RaiderzVixen]

YES! Dodgers win game 1!!!
I'll see them play the Dbacks when they come into town Friday with my pops!

[Sonny Cheeba]

Blue Jays on pace for 162 wins! :nanarave

Actually to be honest I don't think they'll win 80 games TOPS. But it's probably more like 70-75 wins and a 4th place finish in the AL East.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I have the Jays finishing dead last. They're on the verge of a fire sale and Baltimore has some young talent.

[RaiderzVixen]

I have the Jays finishing dead last. They're on the verge of a fire sale and Baltimore has some young talent.

Yeah I seen that! They spanked the Yanks yesterday!

[chitown]

Go Cubbies!!!!!

[Sonny Cheeba]

I have the Jays finishing dead last. They're on the verge of a fire sale and Baltimore has some young talent.
I would agree except JP Ricciardi is too god damn stupid for anything like that. I'm so sick of this clown it's even funny, for years it was "Oh well we can't compete with Boston and New York...." Now what's his excuse for not competing with Tampa?? I have no clue why he still has a job.

[el boracho]

Just found out that I'll be at Chavez Ravine for opening day! My uncle hooked it up. Heeeeel yeah...

Ill be at the Ravine on opening day as well....hit me up bro if you want to tailgate it up.....Doing it big this year with a Taco man and all...

[Raiderette619]

Padres won! woot woot!
now why couldn't they do that last nite!

Oh well none the less..they won! haha

[el boracho]

Padres won! woot woot!
now why couldn't they do that last nite!

Oh well none the less..they won! haha

they got lucky...Dodgers took the night off...we shall see tomorrow hehe..

[Raiderette619]

they got lucky...Dodgers took the night off...we shall see tomorrow hehe..

:chair: hush..I'm enjoying the win LOL

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Ill be at the Ravine on opening day as well....hit me up bro if you want to tailgate it up.....Doing it big this year with a Taco man and all...

Free tacos at the El B tailgate?

[el boracho]

You going to the opener HIll?

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Yep, just found out today actually.

[el boracho]

Yep, just found out today actually.

nice...sending out the invitation to have a couple cold ones at my tailgate...bringing out the taco man for this one....hit me up

[TheMadEskimo]

Nice come back for the A's tonight so far..........

[Padrino]

Manny and James came up big in the clutch!

What's up with Eithier batting clean-up and why is Martin hitting before Loney? Martin takes too many good pitches and gets in the hole. He needs to be more aggressive at the plate. I liked Boggs' theory about taking the first pitch, but damn man. Watching Russell hit is like having teeth pulled...

[el boracho]

Manny and James came up big in the clutch!

What's up with Eithier batting clean-up and why is Martin hitting before Loney? Martin takes too many good pitches and gets in the hole. He needs to be more aggressive at the plate. I liked Boggs' theory about taking the first pitch, but damn man. Watching Russell hit is like having teeth pulled...

yeah im starting to get worried about Russell....hes had no confidence at the plate for quite some time now....he needs to really step up....Don needs to start working with him

[Padrino]

yeah im starting to get worried about Russell....hes had no confidence at the plate for quite some time now....he needs to really step up....Don needs to start working with him

He's reminding me a lot of Jordan Farmar. He was looking like the next great thing in his first year, but fell into a deep dark hole. I still have faith that he can break out of this funk, but it don't look good right now...

[Padrino]

We blew a 3 to 1 lead in the bottom of the 8th. Then we get a lead-off triple from Hudson and can't get him home to tie it. How many times are we going to let Martin hit in clutch situations? He had the bases loaded on one occasion and 1st and 3rd in the bottom of the 9th and what does he do? Double play ball to end the game. FK...

[RaiderzVixen]

We blew a 3 to 1 lead in the bottom of the 8th. Then we get a lead-off triple from Hudson and can't get him home to tie it. How many times are we going to let Martin hit in clutch situations? He had the bases loaded on one occasion and 1st and 3rd in the bottom of the 9th and what does he do? Double play ball to end the game. FK...

This sounds a lot like my sons game last night!!!!!! oh god don't get me started..
they were undefeated 3-0 now they're 3-1...oh well losing makes them appreciate the victories more right?
Coach wouldn't take out their weak pitcher! And finally the ungodly happened he walked 3 straight and with no outs, the 4th batter up smacked one way clear out in center field and of course our center didn't catch it, he throws to second, guy covering 2nd drops the ball, while hes stumbles to get it 2 runners come in! now there's a runner on 1st and 3rd. Guy at 1st steals to 2nd, next batter up hits both of them in.........COACH A LIL HELP HERE!!!!!! Anyhow we lost 7-2 ARRRGH! :shocked

[el boracho]

This sounds a lot like my sons game last night!!!!!! oh god don't get me started..
they were undefeated 3-0 now they're 3-1...oh well losing makes them appreciate the victories more right?
Coach wouldn't take out their weak pitcher! And finally the ungodly happened he walked 3 straight and with no outs, the 4th batter up smacked one way clear out in center field and of course our center didn't catch it, he throws to second, guy covering 2nd drops the ball, while hes stumbles to get it 2 runners come in! now there's a runner on 1st and 3rd. Guy at 1st steals to 2nd, next batter up hits both of them in.........COACH A LIL HELP HERE!!!!!! Anyhow we lost 7-2 ARRRGH! :shocked

dam if that was my son playing i would have taking that coach out myself haha....dam that sux...poor kids...

damm dodgers blew that one...pisses me off...Russell is starting to really worry me....

[Don]

Just want to offer my condolences to the family of the young Angels pitcher who was killed this morning...

[JRaider17]

Yankees finally get into the W column...

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Are you guys serious about Russell Martin? We're FOUR games into the season. Comparing him to Jordan fucking Farmar? Seriously?

Russ OBP'ed .385 last year. His power dropped after the All-Star break but he played unbelievable defense. FanGraphs estimates his actual value (they have a system for comparing runs generated/saved +- and determining an actual dollar value for a player) at $21.8 MILLION DOLLARS. He shouldn't be hitting 5th to begin with, but that's Joe Torre's fault. IMO, Russ is a #2 hitter.

[silver & black]

Looks like my Tribe is going to suck early on... and then try to play catch up, after it's too late... as usual.

[el boracho]

Are you guys serious about Russell Martin? We're FOUR games into the season. Comparing him to Jordan fucking Farmar? Seriously?

Russ OBP'ed .385 last year. His power dropped after the All-Star break but he played unbelievable defense. FanGraphs estimates his actual value (they have a system for comparing runs generated/saved +- and determining an actual dollar value for a player) at $21.8 MILLION DOLLARS. He shouldn't be hitting 5th to begin with, but that's Joe Torre's fault. IMO, Russ is a #2 hitter.

im not a numbers and statistics guy with baseball but watching just about every game Russell really hasnt done much at the plate for quite sometime....His OBP is probably high due to walks....What are his numbers with Runners on ??? You really cant expect all that much offense from an everyday catcher but i just had high hopes for him...Maybe im just being over critical ....

[Doyers y Esleigher]

im not a numbers and statistics guy with baseball but watching just about every game Russell really hasnt done much at the plate for quite sometime....His OBP is probably high due to walks....What are his numbers with Runners on ??? You really cant expect all that much offense from an everyday catcher but i just had high hopes for him...Maybe im just being over critical ....

Numbers and statistics are pretty crucial. Yes his OBP is high because of walks... what is wrong with that? He's a giant + on defense because the ball doesn't get past him. He had a bad year throwing out runners but he's still young. His power does drop mid-season but it does this for most catchers, but when his power drops his OBP stays high so he's not a liability. I really don't see the problem. Torre just needs to stop hitting him in the 4-5 spot.

[JRaider17]

CC comes back with a great game....thank god for hes sake.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Juan Pierre will start for the first time this season today and will be in center field. Pierre will replace Matt Kemp.

This experiment again? We're going to need a cutoff man in shallow center.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

El B - get at me about the tailgate tomorrow.

[Padrino]

Are you guys serious about Russell Martin? We're FOUR games into the season. Comparing him to Jordan fucking Farmar? Seriously?

Russ OBP'ed .385 last year. His power dropped after the All-Star break but he played unbelievable defense. FanGraphs estimates his actual value (they have a system for comparing runs generated/saved +- and determining an actual dollar value for a player) at $21.8 MILLION DOLLARS. He shouldn't be hitting 5th to begin with, but that's Joe Torre's fault. IMO, Russ is a #2 hitter.


I cringe when he's at the plate with runners on base. He's been a double play machine/inning ender for some time now. I could care less what his OBP is.
I love what Martin does behind the plate. He might be the best catcher in the game. Torre should either move him up to 2nd or down to 8th...

[RaiderzVixen]

Dodgers doing awesome so far...lets keep it up boys!

Took the fam bam on a train to Chase field to see them against the Dbacks last Friday....Eeee they really hate LA!!!! But we steadily represent..thats right!

[Padrino]

Dodgers doing awesome so far...lets keep it up boys!

Took the fam bam on a train to Chase field to see them against the Dbacks last Friday....Eeee they really hate LA!!!! But we steadily represent..thats right!

You picked the wrong game to go to, eh? If we can stay healthy then we'll compete for the Championship. Monday's game was off the hook. My son and me picked a great game to attend...

[RaiderzVixen]

You picked the wrong game to go to, eh? If we can stay healthy then we'll compete for the Championship. Monday's game was off the hook. My son and me picked a great game to attend...

We were going to go Saturday but my oldest son had a game, and they won 15-3!!

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I cringe when he's at the plate with runners on base. He's been a double play machine/inning ender for some time now. I could care less what his OBP is.
I love what Martin does behind the plate. He might be the best catcher in the game. Torre should either move him up to 2nd or down to 8th...

Martin hit into 18 double plays last year. His DP% (% of potential double play situations that end in double plays) was 12.9%, good for a NETDP of 2.95 (which means Martin produces 2.95 more double plays per season than the average player with the same number of opportunities). That's by no means stellar, but it's not terrible considering James Loney hit into 29 double plays, had a DP% of 18.9% and a NETDP of 11.11.

I agree that Martin should be hitting 2nd or 8th. That said, you should care what his OBP is because he's getting on base way more often than the average MLB catcher. The wear and tear on a catchers' body doesn't allow them to hit for power for 162 games. With some exceptions (Piazza, these days McCann), catchers become contact/singles hitters after the All Star break so they're going to hit into more DP's. The difference is Russell is also taking a lot of pitches and drawing a lot of walks. He'll give the team opportunities to score runs, where other catchers will be OBPing .310 and turning into automatic outs.

Ultimately, I blame Joe Torre for expecting Martin to be a #4 or #5 hitter, and for starting him in too many games last year.

[Padrino]

Martin hit into 18 double plays last year. His DP% (% of potential double play situations that end in double plays) was 12.9%, good for a NETDP of 2.95 (which means Martin produces 2.95 more double plays per season than the average player with the same number of opportunities). That's by no means stellar, but it's not terrible considering James Loney hit into 29 double plays, had a DP% of 18.9% and a NETDP of 11.11.

I agree that Martin should be hitting 2nd or 8th. That said, you should care what his OBP is because he's getting on base way more often than the average MLB catcher. The wear and tear on a catchers' body doesn't allow them to hit for power for 162 games. With some exceptions (Piazza, these days McCann), catchers become contact/singles hitters after the All Star break so they're going to hit into more DP's. The difference is Russell is also taking a lot of pitches and drawing a lot of walks. He'll give the team opportunities to score runs, where other catchers will be OBPing .310 and turning into automatic outs.

Ultimately, I blame Joe Torre for expecting Martin to be a #4 or #5 hitter, and for starting him in too many games last year.

Martin had a nice base knock on Monday. Moving him back in the line-up will do him/us good. Great point on him wearing 'the tools of ignorance'. In case you're not familiar with that phrase, my Grandpa used to get on me about being a Catcher in little league. I was a rare left handed Catcher, and loved playing that position! I was damned good at it too (not trying to sound arrogant, but...). Not very many dudes tried to run on me.

Trust me bro, I respect the hell out of what Russell does behind the plate.

Interesting fact for you, my Great Uncle on my Mom's side was a backup catcher for the Louisville Colonels (now the Reds).


GO BLUE!..

[Padrino]

We were going to go Saturday but my oldest son had a game, and they won 15-3!!

Awesome. What position does your son play?

Nice avatar. Lisa Lisa is a queen...

[RaiderzVixen]

Awesome. What position does your son play?

Nice avatar. Lisa Lisa is a queen...

Ha! Thanks Tor! He plays center and third.....and by the looks of it I'm sure he'll be headed to all stars. Its a little early but his coach is the vice president of the league and drafted him 1st out of 70 kids!

[Padrino]

Ha! Thanks Tor! He plays center and third.....and by the looks of it I'm sure he'll be headed to all stars. Its a little early but his coach is the vice president of the league and drafted him 1st out of 70 kids!

He must have a big arm. You must be proud!..

[RaiderzVixen]

He must have a big arm. You must be proud!..

Oh you have no idea how proud i am! He is awesome in school too, c'mon scholarship! lol For as thin as he is, he does have a big arm! Pretty damn fast too!

[silver & black]

How sweet! My Tribe wins the home opener at the new Yankee's stadium... against CC no less... I love it!

[el boracho]

Dam Clayton Kersh had a crazy game....He was on it last night....Really excited about the rotation this season...

[Padrino]

Sweep you very much, San Fran. The boys in blue are playing some ball even though Manny is still MIA. Great pitching from our young dudes as well!

The Padres are on fire as well. Looks like they're going to prove a lot of people wrong...

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Don't read too much into the Padres' success. It's April. Like I've said before, as long as you don't go 5-20 in April you're still in the race. I don't see them winning like this all year.

An article done by a Boston writer a couple years ago said Manny will take a strike 3 in April in a division game so the same pitcher gives him the same pitch in September.

[RaiderzVixen]

Don't read too much into the Padres' success. It's April. Like I've said before, as long as you don't go 5-20 in April you're still in the race. I don't see them winning like this all year.

An article done by a Boston writer a couple years ago said Manny will take a strike 3 in April in a division game so the same pitcher gives him the same pitch in September.

Nice Mr. Hill, spoken like a TRUE Dodger fan!!!

[el boracho]

Don't read too much into the Padres' success. It's April. Like I've said before, as long as you don't go 5-20 in April you're still in the race. I don't see them winning like this all year.

An article done by a Boston writer a couple years ago said Manny will take a strike 3 in April in a division game so the same pitcher gives him the same pitch in September.

Pretty interesting...Doesnt Manny typically have slow starts????

[JRaider17]

How sweet! My Tribe wins the home opener at the new Yankee's stadium... against CC no less... I love it!

1. Fuck You lol

2. It wasn't on CC, it was the bullpen.

:sniper

Yankees win today

[Skern]

Just saw Manny hit his second home run in a row. 11 game drought and then line drives two of them

[JRaider17]

Wang SUCKS

[silver & black]

Wang SUCKS


Or is it the other way around? :D

Quite a spanking my tribe is giving the Yanks today, eh? :Yep... :stir:

[JRaider17]

Or is it the other way around? :D

Quite a spanking my tribe is giving the Yanks today, eh? :Yep... :stir:

Just a little... lol

[Jake]

Blue Jays on pace for 162 wins! :nanarave

Actually to be honest I don't think they'll win 80 games TOPS. But it's probably more like 70-75 wins and a 4th place finish in the AL East.

Damn you and your Blue Jays, Buck. Yall got my A's today, so much for getting above .500.

Yo Hill, I know it's late but I'd like to see your take on Oakland.

[chitown]

Cubbies go extra innings and Aramis Ramirez steps up and saves the day!!! Cubbies win again.

[skog]

Dodgers off to a good start, happy to see Manny finally go yard, also have him on my fantasy squad, hes had a slow start.

Was lovin that sweep of the Giants

[Padrino]

Couldn't ask for a better homestand for my Blue. Our young guns are really stepping it up! Only thing I'm really worried about is our bullpen. O-Hud might be the best FA signing in the MLB this past off-season.

GO DODGERS!..

[el boracho]

Couldn't ask for a better homestand for my Blue. Our young guns are really stepping it up! Only thing I'm really worried about is our bullpen. O-Hud might be the best FA signing in the MLB this past off-season.

GO DODGERS!..

hell yeah the blue crew is on fire....your right about the bullpen...i think we need another lefty in there...

[RaiderzVixen]

Cubbies go extra innings and Aramis Ramirez steps up and saves the day!!! Cubbies win again.

yep! by the hair of their chinny chinny chins LOL

haha

GOOO DODGERS! WAY TO SWEEP THE ROCKIES BOYS!

[chitown]

yep! by the hair of their chinny chinny chins LOL

haha

GOOO DODGERS! WAY TO SWEEP THE ROCKIES BOYS!

A Win is a Win when it's all said and done:laugh:

[RaiderzVixen]

A Win is a Win when it's all said and done:laugh:

no no, you're right!! :beer:

[Sonny Cheeba]

Damn you and your Blue Jays, Buck. Yall got my A's today, so much for getting above .500.

Yo Hill, I know it's late but I'd like to see your take on Oakland.
Believe that! I definitley didn't expect this strong start, 10-4 and the bats are on fire from top to bottom. Doc Halladay is still a true no. 1 ace in this league.

[Padrino]

Believe that! I definitley didn't expect this strong start, 10-4 and the bats are on fire from top to bottom. Doc Halladay is still a true no. 1 ace in this league.

Cheers for double digit's in the win column.

My Dodgers start up a series with Houston today. 'The Kid' Kershaw vs. Russ Ortiz...

[Padrino]

Broxton better not blow another save. Shit...

[Sonny Cheeba]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290517114

Blue Jays also have the best record in baseball since Cito was re-hired last June. Is it 1993 all over again??? :hi:

[Padrino]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290517114

Blue Jays also have the best record in baseball since Cito was re-hired last June. Is it 1993 all over again??? :hi:

Props to your Jays for stepping it up this year! I get tired of the same teams winning all the time (unless they're my teams).

GO DODGERS!..

[el boracho]

Clayton was ballin today....he will get a no no before his career is over....GO DODGERS!!!!

[Padrino]

Billingsley is on the hill tonight. I love the way the Dodgers are winning those ugly games. When we struggle with the bat our pitching staff comes in and carries us, and vice versa. Our defense has been great, too.

GO BLUE!..

[SONIC]

Tonight starts the Freeway Series and all I gotta say is...GO ANGELS

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn141/baa-13/DodgersSuck.jpg

[RaiderzVixen]

tonight starts the freeway series and all i gotta say is...go angels


boooo!
gooo blue!!!!!!!!!

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Fuck OC.

[SONIC]

Taking two out of three in Dodgertown.

JUST ANOTHER HALO VICTORY

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Go be a Chargers fan like the rest of the Angels fans.

[SONIC]

Go be a Chargers fan like the rest of the Angels fans.

I'm a Raiders & Angels fan...deal with it

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Fine dude, if you REALLY want to be an Angels fan, do it. Just don't attend an Angels game, then come on here saying "wow, I went to a baseball game today, but nobody knew about baseball. Everyone was there to watch their kids play with tonka trucks and flip out at the fireworks. At some point, we sang 'Build Me Up Buttercup' because the crowd's attention span for 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame' only lasted one verse. For some reason, the only time they cared about the game on the field was when some video of a monkey flipping out to nu metal music played on the big board. I also thought I was going to see the Los Angeles Angels, but Los Angeles isn't like I expected. There are tons of strip malls, everything is a shade darker from all the factory smog, everyone my age drives a raised pick-up truck and worships Del Taco, and the one black person I saw the whole time rolled down his window and said 'hey man, how do I find the freeway?'"

[SONIC]

Fine dude, if you REALLY want to be an Angels fan, do it. Just don't attend an Angels game, then come on here saying "wow, I went to a baseball game today, but nobody knew about baseball. Everyone was there to watch their kids play with tonka trucks and flip out at the fireworks. At some point, we sang 'Build Me Up Buttercup' because the crowd's attention span for 'Take Me Out To The Ballgame' only lasted one verse. For some reason, the only time they cared about the game on the field was when some video of a monkey flipping out to nu metal music played on the big board. I also thought I was going to see the Los Angeles Angels, but Los Angeles isn't like I expected. There are tons of strip malls, everything is a shade darker from all the factory smog, everyone my age drives a raised pick-up truck and worships Del Taco, and the one black person I saw the whole time rolled down his window and said 'hey man, how do I find the freeway?'"

Who are you to say or dictate what I can or can't do or say? I have attended an Angels game before and I will attend another one in the future. If you really have a problem with me then you can send me a PM to get it off of your chest and we can talk it over like civilized adults. I came here to have a good time and talk Raider football and other topics around here, not to deal with drama.

[TruR8r]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290517114

Blue Jays also have the best record in baseball since Cito was re-hired last June. Is it 1993 all over again??? :hi:

Where's Joe Carter when you need him? :D

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I need to stop posting when I'm wasted.

[TruR8r]

Who are you to say or dictate what I can or can't do or say? I have attended an Angels game before and I will attend another one in the future. If you really have a problem with me then you can send me a PM to get it off of your chest and we can talk it over like civilized adults. I came here to have a good time and talk Raider football and other topics around here, not to deal with drama.

Have you attended one in Anaheim? When you make the trip out here again, hit me up and I'll get you in the locker room. :roc:

[TruR8r]

It's amazing how awful David Ortiz has been this season. No Manny anymore and I'm sure he's off the roids and now we see a David Ortiz we saw in Minnesota. Actually his numbers were better with the Twins then the garbage he has been putting up now.

[SONIC]

Have you attended one in Anaheim? When you make the trip out here again, hit me up and I'll get you in the locker room. :roc:

I have attended a game in Anaheim once, in 2005.

Thanks bro, I really appreciate it:roc:

[Jake]

You gotta be kidding me about the 'build me up buttercup' song in Anaheim. Please say you're joking. hahaha

[TruR8r]

Did anyone see that clip of Mr. T at the Cubs game? That guy is something else.

[SONIC]

You gotta be kidding me about the 'build me up buttercup' song in Anaheim. Please say you're joking. hahaha

Hey, it could've been worse, it could've been that stupid-ass "Sweet Caroline" that the Red Sux (Excuse Of A) "Nation" sing to all the time.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

There's no way Sweet Carolina is worse than Build Me Up Buttercup, and how can an Angels fan knock Red Sox fans? There's lots of bandwagon Red Sox fans in random states now but that city has lived and died by that team 100 years longer than Anaheim has even known who the Angels were. I don't want to blanket everyone from OC because I have some really good friends from out there but 80% of those fans are straight up bandwagon. I love OC and all it's hot dumb blonde babes, tall big-tittied Korean babes and crazy South American chicks, and the clean beaches and good food, but I hate the fucking Angels.

PS Tru - you're holding out on me bro! I go to Angel Stadium sometimes to see the Yankees, Dodgers, or Red Sox. As much as I don't like the environment, it's worth it to see those teams.

[TruR8r]

There's no way Sweet Carolina is worse than Build Me Up Buttercup, and how can an Angels fan knock Red Sox fans? There's lots of bandwagon Red Sox fans in random states now but that city has lived and died by that team 100 years longer than Anaheim has even known who the Angels were. I don't want to blanket everyone from OC because I have some really good friends from out there but 80% of those fans are straight up bandwagon. I love OC and all it's hot dumb blonde babes, tall big-tittied Korean babes and crazy South American chicks, and the clean beaches and good food, but I hate the fucking Angels.

PS Tru - you're holding out on me bro! I go to Angel Stadium sometimes to see the Yankees, Dodgers, or Red Sox. As much as I don't like the environment, it's worth it to see those teams.
Haha not at all Hill, just let me know what game you will attend and i'll hook you up. I agree with your post as well, the Angels averaged 20k a game when they sucked ass and now all of a sudden they decide to be hardcore.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

What do you do at the Stadium?

[TruR8r]

I had an internship there taking care of sales, marketing and public relations. Pretty much all the dirty work. I lucked out and hit it off with the marketing coordinator and they hired me to assist the marketing dept. I'll get to help in setting up charity events and other special events.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

That rules. It's a foot in the door. I'd love to work for a baseball team.

Check your PM's.

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I thought this was the Official "Middle Linebacker" Thread...

As if Kirk Morrison doesn't suck and deserves his own thread...


Then I saw it was in "Other Sports"

so anyways...

Mets will own the Phils this year!!!

I realllllly realllly hope they pull some sort of trade off for a solid #2 by the break tho

[TruR8r]

Dodgers are tearing it up. Who needs Manny when we have Juan Pierre. :D but on the real Pierre has been huge for us.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I just hope he keeps these up long enough to trade him to some sucker.

[Padrino]

Dodgers are tearing it up. Who needs Manny when we have Juan Pierre. :D but on the real Pierre has been huge for us.

Dude, Pierre is the silent assassin! What I want to know is who's going to sit down when Manny comes back? Juan is playing too well to be sitting on the bench.

I thought you were a Halo fan, Tru...

[TruR8r]

Teams might be hesitant to trade for him because of his salary. Dodgers might have to eat most of it.

[TruR8r]

Dude, Pierre is the silent assassin! What I want to know is who's going to sit down when Manny comes back? Juan is playing too well to be sitting on the bench.

I thought you were a Halo fan, Tru...

Haha I work for them but I'm Dodger Blue. I did follow both teams growing up so I don't hate them. I can't stand the bandwagon though. It's amazing how much Manny's absence has affected Ethier, he was tearing it up.

[Padrino]

So, you think that Manny will be put on the shelf? I know McCourt was royally pissed off at Manny, but there's no way Manny doesn't play when his suspension is up...

[Padrino]

Haha I work for them but I'm Dodger Blue. I did follow both teams growing up so I don't hate them. I can't stand the bandwagon though. It's amazing how much Manny's absence has affected Ethier, he was tearing it up.

Yeah, I the only time I really hate the Angels is when they give us our annual ass kickings.

Look at what it's doing to Big Papi. Manny's an elite hitter...

[TruR8r]

Oh hell no!! Manny will play and most of the fan base will forgive and cheer him on like before.

[TruR8r]

Yeah, I the only time I really hate the Angels is when they give us our annual ass kickings.

Look at what it's doing to Big Papi. Manny's an elite hitter...

Yea Ortiz has been horrible and not having Manny has hurt him BUT i also think he gave the roids up. I'm sure he was on something as well.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Ortiz is breaking down, but I dunno about Ethier. He's historically streaky and really only hit in front of Manny in 2 games. I don't think losing Manny affected him as much as people think.

[Padrino]

L.A. 1, Denver 0. Hopefully the Lakers can take care of business tonight and make it 2 - 0.

What the hell happened to Toronto?..

[Sonny Cheeba]

L.A. 1, Denver 0. Hopefully the Lakers can take care of business tonight and make it 2 - 0.

What the hell happened to Toronto?..

:maddance: lost 9 IN A ROW! :maddance: What the fuck!!! Roy Halladay leaves after 7 innings today with an 8-3 lead....and of course the fuckin bullpen blows it and they lose in extra innings. And on top of that they can't hit a God damn thing anymore??? Shit!

[raiderdude69]

There's no way Sweet Carolina is worse than Build Me Up Buttercup, and how can an Angels fan knock Red Sox fans? There's lots of bandwagon Red Sox fans in random states now but that city has lived and died by that team 100 years longer than Anaheim has even known who the Angels were. I don't want to blanket everyone from OC because I have some really good friends from out there but 80% of those fans are straight up bandwagon. I love OC and all it's hot dumb blonde babes, tall big-tittied Korean babes and crazy South American chicks, and the clean beaches and good food, but I hate the fucking Angels.

PS Tru - you're holding out on me bro! I go to Angel Stadium sometimes to see the Yankees, Dodgers, or Red Sox. As much as I don't like the environment, it's worth it to see those teams.

Gotta agree wholeheartedly bro.. Grew up in MoVal/Riverside, used to go to TONS of Angel games, just to see the other teams/check out the OC chicks.. Been a Dodger fan since birth though, so I kinda felt dirty hitting up their digs all those times, but hey, my team's got rings so fuck 'em..

But yeah, they were averaging MAYBE 20K even in SEPTEMBER of 2002, then EVERYONE became an Angel fan.. Even my bros who I KNEW were diehard since the Don Baylor/Bobby Grich/Rod Carew days were getting pissed that they had to fight over playoff tickets with the bandwagon fucks.. And I went to high school and played Pony League with Percival so I had a personal dislike for that fucker.. ONLY reason I rooted for them in the Series was 'cause they were playing the hated GIANTS..

I watch the Mariners quite a bit up here, but I'll ALWAYS be Dodger Blue, regardless.. Good to have the nice big lead in the NL West so far, but alot of ball left to be played.. Let's hope we keep the pitching up and the hitting keeps up their collective shit, even when Manny gets back.. Pierre's tearin' shit up though.. Good to see..

[TruR8r]

Good W today by the Dodgers. Wolf has been a good pick up.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I like seeing these young relievers coming into their own a bit (except for Belasario who there isn't a minor league low enough for), but this pen needs to be fortified. You can't expect 80 innings out of all these guys and Kuo might not come back.

[TruR8r]

Yea Colletti told the Times that he wants to pick up and extra arm or two.

[Padrino]

11:20, PST, start today, and C-Bill is on the mound. It's an ugly day down in Whales Vagina but I feel good.

GO BLUE!..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Dodgers are national tonight. Already up 5-0!

[raiderdude69]

Kemp just jacked one out, 6-0.. Let's break that mini-losing streak tonight.. Looking good so far..

[TruR8r]

I think if there's anyone that can break Dimaggio's consecutive hit streak it's Ichiro. The guy can flat out hit.

[RaiderzVixen]

I am still so stoked over the Dodgers win last night!!! Way to take the series!
F**KIN BROXTON MAN!!!!!! HE WAS THROWING SOME HEATERS BOY!!!
WHOOOOOOWIE!!! 4 100 MPH FAST BALLS ALMOST CONSECUTIVELY WOW!!!!
WAY TO HOLD DOWN THE 9TH INNING!!! I WAS MOST IMPRESSED! HE IS THE SH*T!!!!
IT WAS SO INTERESTING THAT MY BABYGIRL CAME TO WATCH THE GAME WITH ME. SHE WAS LIKE IMAGINE GETTING HIT WITH A BALL THAT FAST I WAS LIKE HUH? IT'D BE LIKE GETTING HIT BY A CAR LOL

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I think if there's anyone that can break Dimaggio's consecutive hit streak it's Ichiro. The guy can flat out hit.

The Mariners suck again too so he'll have no problem doing what he did when he broke the single-season hits record (bunting for singles with a runner on 2nd and 2 outs down 1 in the 9th, etc.). He's already the best player ever from Japan but this would just solidify it.

He might get hit #2,000 this year. 2,000 hits in under 10 years!!!

[TruR8r]

The Mariners suck again too so he'll have no problem doing what he did when he broke the single-season hits record (bunting for singles with a runner on 2nd and 2 outs down 1 in the 9th, etc.). He's already the best player ever from Japan but this would just solidify it.

He might get hit #2,000 this year. 2,000 hits in under 10 years!!!

Yea the Mariners suck ass and to think that franchise had Griffey, A-Rod, Johnson, Buhner and still couldn't get it done. Even as weak as the AL West is they still can't manage to win shit. Imagine if Ichiro would have played in the U.S. from the get go, he would have reached 3500-4000 hits if healthy.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Don't forget Raul Ibanez had some good years there too, though obviously not like this year.

[TruR8r]

Yea he's tearing it up. Dodger/Yankee W.S. imagine the ratings on that. Those are my picks for this years W.S.

[Padrino]

Yea he's tearing it up. Dodger/Yankee W.S. imagine the ratings on that. Those are my picks for this years W.S.


I'm not ready to put our Dodgers in the WS yet. Our division is weak and we don't know what will happen when Manny returns. I think he'll pick up right where he left off, but only time will tell.

Dodgers vs Yankees would be epic.

GO BLUE!..

[TruR8r]

I'm not ready to put our Dodgers in the WS yet. Our division is weak and we don't know what will happen when Manny returns. I think he'll pick up right where he left off, but only time will tell.

Dodgers vs Yankees would be epic.

GO BLUE!..

I agree but you have to like our chances. I'm tired of hearing about 1988, it's time for a new banner.

[Padrino]

We are having trouble scoring runs this week. Not sure wth is going on.

GO BLUE!..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

What's going on is expected IMO. This offense wasn't going to score like crazy every night without Manny. They still have to string together rallies to score runs.

[SONIC]

Angels are 3.5 games out of 1st place in the A.L. West. We need to keep winning, and we need the Texas Rangers to be losing more than they have.

[TruR8r]

Angels are 3.5 games out of 1st place in the A.L. West. We need to keep winning, and we need the Texas Rangers to be losing more than they have.

Even if the Angels win the division again they're not winning shit in the playoffs. I hate their personnel decisions at times and good pitching and small ball will not get it done. It's pretty obvious that those 2 thingd haven't helped this team in the playoffs.

[raiderdude69]

The Mariners suck again too so he'll have no problem doing what he did when he broke the single-season hits record (bunting for singles with a runner on 2nd and 2 outs down 1 in the 9th, etc.). He's already the best player ever from Japan but this would just solidify it.

He might get hit #2,000 this year. 2,000 hits in under 10 years!!!

Yep, dude is amazing to watch in person.. I've been up here 5 years and am in my 5th season on the 16 game package with some guys from work.. Say what you want about Ichiro, but he is exciting to watch.. Too bad it took them till this long to get Griffey back, but I have been able to see him hit a couple HR's this year, so that's been cool..

And Safeco's a beautiful place to watch a ballgame.. I'll be going up there tomorrow for the Twins game.. And yes, the team sucks again, but not nearly as bad as last year, yet.. I'll always bleed Dodger Blue, but I do root for the Mariners to do well, except when they play the Dodgers later on in the season.. Just pissed they play them again in Dodger Stadium instead of up here..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I have tickets for one of those Dodgers/M's games so I can see Griffey and Ichiro. Last time I saw the M's in LA, it was when A-Rod and Griffey were still on the team, and there was a giant brawl during the game.

[SONIC]

Even if the Angels win the division again they're not winning shit in the playoffs. I hate their personnel decisions at times and good pitching and small ball will not get it done. It's pretty obvious that those 2 things haven't helped this team in the playoffs.

I do not like how we have played throughout the season, the fact that we have had so many injuries has also hurt us as well. I'm really starting to miss K-Rod, Brian Fuentes has been average at best. I really want to see us hit more long balls, relying on the small ball & good pitching alone won't do shit because World Series-caliber teams are good at long ball, small ball, base running, and have a great pitching staff, etc.

Art Moreno, Tony Reagins, & Mike Scioscia need to wake up and get to it. The Texas Rangers are no longer an easily beatable team.

[TruR8r]

I do not like how we have played throughout the season, the fact that we have had so many injuries has also hurt us as well. I'm really starting to miss K-Rod, Brian Fuentes has been average at best. I really want to see us hit more long balls, relying on the small ball & good pitching alone won't do shit because World Series-caliber teams are good at long ball, small ball, base running, and have a great pitching staff, etc.

Art Moreno, Tony Reagins, & Mike Scioscia need to wake up and get to it. The Texas Rangers are no longer an easily beatable team.

Yea one of the best bullpens for many years sucks ass this year. Shields and Arredonado have been the most disappointing relievers.

[SONIC]

Yea one of the best bullpens for many years sucks ass this year. Shields and Arredonado have been the most disappointing relievers.

Last year Shields was great at holds for K-Rod (who had saving/closing ball games down to a science) and Arredondo was a fireballer. The biggest disappointment has been Fuentes. He is below average at best.

[TruR8r]

Last year Shields was great at holds for K-Rod (who had saving/closing ball games down to a science) and Arredondo was a fireballer. The biggest disappointment has been Fuentes. He is below average at best.

I knew that already. Fuentes has never been that great and the Angels fucked up in letting K-Rod go.

[SONIC]

I knew that already. Fuentes has never been that great and the Angels fucked up in letting K-Rod go.

We didn't offer him enough money, it was either spending all that money on a new contract for him or offering as much money for hitters like Teix (whom we let go as well). Like I said, ownership & management need to wake the fuck up because some of our main competitors, including division rival Texas, have been improving.

[Bump]

Fuck the philleis!

Santana bendin the phillies over tonight

[TruR8r]

We didn't offer him enough money, it was either spending all that money on a new contract for him or offering as much money for hitters like Teix (whom we let go as well). Like I said, ownership & management need to wake the fuck up because some of our main competitors, including division rival Texas, have been improving.

Yea at the end of the day they ended up losing him and Tex and got Fuentes and Abreu. Angels are back at the bottom in HR's hit this year.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I knew that already. Fuentes has never been that great and the Angels fucked up in letting K-Rod go.

Overpaying for a closer is really dumb though.

[Bump]

Overpaying for a closer is really dumb though.

If I didnt know any better I'd say that was an indirect shot at the Mets!!

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Nah, that's been a general baseball philosophy of mine for a long time. The save is the most overblown stat in baseball next to batting average. You know who lead the NL in saves last year? Brian Wilson. He also had an ERA over 4 and put baserunners on like it was going out of style, but with 2 and 3 run leads he was able to get out of the jam more often than not.

Obviously you love K-Rod coming out of the pen to shut someone down, but IMO, closers like him tend to get paid more than the amount of wins they'll actually create for their team.

[Bump]

Nah, that's been a general baseball philosophy of mine for a long time. The save is the most overblown stat in baseball next to batting average. You know who lead the NL in saves last year? Brian Wilson. He also had an ERA over 4 and put baserunners on like it was going out of style, but with 2 and 3 run leads he was able to get out of the jam more often than not.

Obviously you love K-Rod coming out of the pen to shut someone down, but IMO, closers like him tend to get paid more than the amount of wins they'll actually create for their team.

I agree somewhat... when you have a closer who is as automatic as K Rod then I think they are worth every penny. How crucial was Mariano to the Yanks..... even in 1 run games u knew it was over when he came in

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I agree somewhat... when you have a closer who is as automatic as K Rod then I think they are worth every penny. How crucial was Mariano to the Yanks..... even in 1 run games u knew it was over when he came in

K-Rod isn't as automatic as everyone says. He's gotten a lot of 2 and 3 run saves and blown his share of tied games. Guys like Mo are way more rare than people think. There are only a handful of guys I'd trust in literally ANY 1 run/high leverage situation. A lot of closers are just stat compilers. I don't believe Trevor Hoffman belongs in the Hall of Fame.

[TruR8r]

Overpaying for a closer is really dumb though.

I agree but the Angels were offering him 33 million while he signed for 37. It would have been in their best interest to keep him knowing how successful he was during his tenure there. Not as automatic as Rivera was in his prime but still one of the best closers.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I agree but the Angels were offering him 33 million while he signed for 37. It would have been in their best interest to keep him knowing how successful he was during his tenure there. Not as automatic as Rivera was in his prime but still one of the best closers.

3 years at 37 million is too much considering the bottom dropped out of the relief pitching market really fast. It's possible to get similar value out of a closer and spend your money elsewhere. The Mets are a little different because they have payroll room and didn't have the kind of questions offensively that the Angels did.

[Sonny Cheeba]

Closers are important but it's not wise to throw big money at them. The Blue Jays gave B.J. Ryan $47 million after the 2005 season and right now that move looks idiotic. Scott Downs who probably makes 1/10th what Ryan makes has been doing a bang-up job in his spot.

[CrizpyNutz]

I agree with those who feel paying huge $$ to closers is an un-wise move. I do love Papelbon and his $6.5 million is pushing the limit of what I would pay for a closer. He's not automatic and has struggled at times this year, but he is that type of player who does well when the pressure is on. He can also pitch more than a 3-out inning, he's pitched 2-3 innings before when needed. Letting K-Rod walk for the money was IMO, the right move. They may not have replaced him yet, but that doesn't mean keeping him and paying him all that money would've been the right move.

BTW, how 'bout the Sox sweeping the Yankees again.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/469504545_425370a4ff.jpg?v=0

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Loved the Sox sweeping the Yanks....

At least the Mets won a game in the Phils series... they fucking blew a 3 run and a 2 run lead in the last 2

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I hate the Sox way more than the Yanks. 2nd most annoying fans behind the Angels.

Papelbon doesn't look good this year. His fastball still has some zip but his stuff isn't moving much and he's relying too much on that splitter (which has lost some of its action). A great closer can literally be reduced to nothing in 2-3 years, which is why there's 0 point in paying them high unless they are absolutely ridiculous.

[Sonny Cheeba]

I hate the Sox way more than the Yanks. 2nd most annoying fans behind the Angels.

Papelbon doesn't look good this year. His fastball still has some zip but his stuff isn't moving much and he's relying too much on that splitter (which has lost some of its action). A great closer can literally be reduced to nothing in 2-3 years, which is why there's 0 point in paying them high unless they are absolutely ridiculous.
Eric Gagne.

[TruR8r]

I hate the Sox way more than the Yanks. 2nd most annoying fans behind the Angels.

Papelbon doesn't look good this year. His fastball still has some zip but his stuff isn't moving much and he's relying too much on that splitter (which has lost some of its action). A great closer can literally be reduced to nothing in 2-3 years, which is why there's 0 point in paying them high unless they are absolutely ridiculous.

Angel fans get to you Hill? They're little mice my friend, I just laugh at them.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Angel fans get to you Hill? They're little mice my friend, I just laugh at them.

It's different. Red Sox fans are the drunk guy screaming obscenities in the stands, and Angels fans are the uppity white lady getting offended, covering her kids' ears and reporting it to an usher. The way I see it, at least the drunk guy yelling obscenities knows a thing or two about baseball.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Impressive series win for the Dodgers if they finish this out. I thought we'd get killed in a launch pad like Texas.

[GenRaider]

It's different. Red Sox fans are the drunk guy screaming obscenities in the stands, and Angels fans are the uppity white lady getting offended, covering her kids' ears and reporting it to an usher. The way I see it, at least the drunk guy yelling obscenities knows a thing or two about baseball.

Red sox fans tend to be loud, but at least half of them know what the hell they are talking about... I prefer passion and rudeness in sports and the ribbing that goes on between fans...

[SONIC]

You guys can talk all the shit on the Angels that you want, I can't wait for the Freeway Series this weekend in OUR house. We went two out of three at Chavez Ravine, and hopefully we'll go AT LEAST 2 out of 3 at Angel Stadium as well.

[SONIC]

It's different. Red Sox fans are the drunk guy screaming obscenities in the stands, and Angels fans are the uppity white lady getting offended, covering her kids' ears and reporting it to an usher. The way I see it, at least the drunk guy yelling obscenities knows a thing or two about baseball.

Seriously, there are bad apples in EVERY fanbase in baseball. You haven't come into contact with the Angel fans that I have, whether it be in person or on the Internet, they can talk good baseball. I've met a couple of nice Red Sox fans but the majority of them are just arrogant, obnoxious douche bags who want everyone to bow down on their knees before their team with their annoying Boston accent while shoving their fat faces full of their New England Clam Chowder. And you want to talk about lady fans? Red Sox female fans are a bunch of fatasses with their Kevin Youkilis or Josh Beckett shitty-ass shirts who belong on the reality show, The Biggest Loser, than at a baseball game.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Seriously, there are bad apples in EVERY fanbase in baseball. You haven't come into contact with the Angel fans that I have, whether it be in person or on the Internet, they can talk good baseball.

I live in Los Angeles, 35 minutes north of Anaheim. Safe to say I've met more Angels fans than you have, and been to more Angels games in my life. And no, your average Angel fan is clueless when it comes to the actual sport of baseball.

I've met a couple of nice Red Sox fans but the majority of them are just arrogant, obnoxious douche bags who want everyone to bow down on their knees before their team with their annoying Boston accent while shoving their fat faces full of their New England Clam Chowder. And you want to talk about lady fans? Red Sox female fans are a bunch of fatasses with their Kevin Youkilis or Josh Beckett shitty-ass shirts who belong on the reality show, The Biggest Loser, than at a baseball game.

You cannot possibly compare Red Sox fans with Angels fans. As annoying as Boston fans are, they packed Fenway for 86 years while their team suffered some of the worst defeats in MLB history. What were Angels fans doing? Not existing. Prior to 2002, Angels games were a way for East Coast and Mid-West transplants living in LA to come see their favorite AL team. My father and I have gone to the Yankees game down there almost every year and it was a Yankee home game, and the same went for Boston, Cleveland, etc. The Dodgers and Angels might as well have played 6 in Los Angeles instead of 3 here and 3 there since it was all Dodgers fans anyway.

Forbes Magazine rated Angels fans as the worst fanbase in professional baseball.

Plus, you'll never understand the LA/OC thing. This really isn't a matter of two teams feuding over a city. The Dodgers own LA, have always owned LA, and will always own LA. The whole "battle for LA" thing is really just media hype, and that hype annoys the shit out of us. The Angels don't even play here and the Dodgers play in the middle of the city. LA is a big liberal city and OC is conservative and suburban. LA has a history of cultural movements and OC was once the California HQ of the Ku Klux Klan (and still has the largest concentration of neo-nazi and extremist right wingers in the United States, by the numbers). LA fans are insane and rowdy while Angel fans are usually tame. It's just a night and day thing that breeds a lot of dislike. It isn't really a baseball feud the way a Dodgers/Giants feud is.

[el boracho]

way too many 1 run games with the Doyers...Getting too many gray hairs....

[Padrino]

way too many 1 run games with the Doyers...Getting too many gray hairs....

One run games build character, lol. Don't worry bro, I have a lot of 'Raider' greys.

Can't wait until Manny gets back in the line-up...

[el boracho]

One run games build character, lol. Don't worry bro, I have a lot of 'Raider' greys.

Can't wait until Manny gets back in the line-up...

yeah it does i guess...Yeah Juan has been good but cant wait for Manny.....

[Doyers y Esleigher]

The Dodgers should not be winning. Teams that win like this inevitably hit a wall and skid, but by the time we hit the wall Manny will be back.

BTW, you guys were right about Martin. He can turn this around but this skid is downright terrible. I'm glad he's hitting 8th now.

[el boracho]

The Dodgers should not be winning. Teams that win like this inevitably hit a wall and skid, but by the time we hit the wall Manny will be back.

BTW, you guys were right about Martin. He can turn this around but this skid is downright terrible. I'm glad he's hitting 8th now.

yeah hill i kept saying it about Martin....I think we need to see Brad in there soon....0 HR and a 220 average is pathetic...Brad would not be that bad....Let Russell ride the pine for a week or two..I was at the game last night and i was all over his xss...I know he heard me ....haha..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

yeah hill i kept saying it about Martin....I think we need to see Brad in there soon....0 HR and a 220 average is pathetic...Brad would not be that bad....Let Russell ride the pine for a week or two..I was at the game last night and i was all over his xss...I know he heard me ....haha..

IMO that's just going to smash Russ' confidence. Part of the reason Ausmus is playing well is his backup role. I don't see him playing well at all if his playing time got extended and he had to catch 4-5 straight games on 40 year old legs. If he's extended at all, we're going to get run on left and right.

And Martin's defense behind the plate, and ability to communicate well with pitchers, is too valuable. I'm not worried about him long-term, he was in the wrong role to begin with IMO.

[SONIC]

Oh well, I'm just happy that the Freeway Series starts again this weekend. We took two out of 3 from the Dodgers at Chavez Ravine & we will do it again, take AT LEAST 2 out of 3 in our house.

[SONIC]

You cannot possibly compare Red Sox fans with Angels fans. As annoying as Boston fans are, they packed Fenway for 86 years while their team suffered some of the worst defeats in MLB history. What were Angels fans doing? Not existing.

Dude, you may think finding an Angel fans where you are before 2002 is impossible, but the exact same thing can be said for finding a Red Sox fan OUTSIDE of Boston before 2004, before they broke "The Curse of The Bambino". When the Red Sox did break their so-called "curse", millions of people decided to jump on the bandwagon of the Red Sox and act like they are God's Gift to baseball and that everyone else they meet in stadiums across the country at every Red Sux road game do the same as well.

Angel fans are more laid back, we don't believe in acting like pompous-asses & we don't carry around a God's Gift attitude like Red Sux fans do. If you were a fan of any team other than the Dodgers and have been to a baseball game where the Red Sox were the road team you'd see what I mean. You would understand why fans of every other team in baseball HATE the Red Sox.

[GenRaider]

Dude, you may think finding an Angel fans where you are before 2002 is impossible, but the exact same thing can be said for finding a Red Sox fan OUTSIDE of Boston before 2004, before they broke "The Curse of The Bambino". When the Red Sox did break their so-called "curse", millions of people decided to jump on the bandwagon of the Red Sox and act like they are God's Gift to baseball and that everyone else they meet in stadiums across the country at every Red Sux road game do the same as well.

Angel fans are more laid back, we don't believe in acting like pompous-asses & we don't carry around a God's Gift attitude like Red Sux fans do. If you were a fan of any team other than the Dodgers and have been to a baseball game where the Red Sox were the road team you'd see what I mean. You would understand why fans of every other team in baseball HATE the Red Sox.

Prior to 2002, your little fan base has been completely irrelevant and non existent.. Don't compare the Angels to the Red Sox...

[Bump]

hahahahh comparing the Angels to the Red Sox

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Dude, you may think finding an Angel fans where you are before 2002 is impossible, but the exact same thing can be said for finding a Red Sox fan OUTSIDE of Boston before 2004

What do I care about Red Sox fans outside of Boston? Every team has bandwagon fans dude. You know how many Raiders fans there'd be outside of California if we won the Super Bowl? If the Red Sox ever fall off (not likely given their GM/front office is probably the best in MLB), the people of Boston will support them.

No one gave a fuck about the Angels before 2002, in Anaheim or outside of it.

Angel fans are more laid back, we don't believe in acting like pompous-asses & we don't carry around a God's Gift attitude like Red Sux fans do. If you were a fan of any team other than the Dodgers and have been to a baseball game where the Red Sox were the road team you'd see what I mean. You would understand why fans of every other team in baseball HATE the Red Sox.

I've been to lots of games with the Red Sox as the road team. I've seen them in Oakland, Anaheim, and last year they played the Dodgers in the LA Coliseum in front of 100,000 people. I know how annoying their fans are, but I'm not going to judge true Boston fans based on the bandwagoners that exist outside of Boston, because the same shit happens with every great team like that.

That laid back attitude you're describing has nothing to do with approach to the game and everything to do with the fact that most people in the stadium just found out what a baseball was a few years ago. Sorry dude, but the Angels fanbase is a giant freaking bandwagon, the stadium might as well be made of wood and have wheels. I'd rather be in Fenway Park with a bunch of passionate Red Sox fans who actually know baseball than I would in Angel Stadium watching people sit with their hands folded until the Rally Monkey tells them to cheer.

The three most loyal fan bases in baseball belong to the Yankees, Cardinals and Dodgers. Forget the out of town bandwagoners, these teams are staples of the city they play in. When you go to Yankee Stadium and hear people calling for a bunt up the first base line because the pitcher is left handed and the 1B is playing slightly back, you can't help but smile as someone who loves the game. Same goes with St. Louis, where they'll cheer the opposing outfielder if he makes a nice catch, or Los Angeles, where they draw 3 1/2 million in losing seasons. Those are true fans of baseball, not the god damn Angels.

[Bump]

^^^ I disagree, The Yankees definitely do not have a loyal fanbase... They DO have die hards.. just like every team.. But nah, not the truest of fanbases IMO>

[chitown]

hahahahh comparing the Angels to the Red Sox

It's like comparing rotten bananas to apples.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

^^^ I disagree, The Yankees definitely do not have a loyal fanbase... They DO have die hards.. just like every team.. But nah, not the truest of fanbases IMO>

They have enough die hards to fill the stadium out when they're not playing great. IMO, that's one of the big keys to a great fan base in any city. Plus Yankee fans in NY know the intricacies of the American League game really well.

I think the absolute truest group belongs to St. Louis. That is a pure baseball fan base.

[Bump]

They have enough die hards to fill the stadium out when they're not playing great. IMO, that's one of the big keys to a great fan base in any city. Plus Yankee fans in NY know the intricacies of the American League game really well.

I think the absolute truest group belongs to St. Louis. That is a pure baseball fan base.

I agree. Cubs too

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I agree. Cubs too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_living_supercentenarians

We're really not that far off from a day when no person alive was around when the Cubs won a World Series. That's crazy. Anyone who ever calls a Cubs fan bandwagon should be punched in the face.

[Bump]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_living_supercentenarians

We're really not that far off from a day when no person alive was around when the Cubs won a World Series. That's crazy. Anyone who ever calls a Cubs fan bandwagon should be punched in the face.


and its amazing how they still turn out

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Wrigley is sold out for almost every game. That's absolutely insane if you think about how many weekday day games the Cubs play there.

One thing that's cool about being an LA fan (probably true for New York too) is getting to know fans of other teams who are actually from that city. There are lots of Chicago transplants here who show up for the Cubs series. The Cubs also find asinine ways of losing here, so it's just like being at home for them.

[Padrino]

Anyone have any audio from the Artie Lang/Joe Buck confrontation? I need to hear that shiit...

[Corndog]

Anyone have any audio from the Artie Lang/Joe Buck confrontation? I need to hear that shiit...

I didn't hear about it - what happened?

[Don]

Anyone have any audio from the Artie Lang/Joe Buck confrontation? I need to hear that shiit...

I think this is the stuff that happened later, I dunno. still funny tho

http://deadspin.com/5292467/watch-artie-lange-crap-all-over-joe-bucks-first-show

[chitown]

Wrigley is sold out for almost every game. That's absolutely insane if you think about how many weekday day games the Cubs play there.

One thing that's cool about being an LA fan (probably true for New York too) is getting to know fans of other teams who are actually from that city. There are lots of Chicago transplants here who show up for the Cubs series. The Cubs also find asinine ways of losing here, so it's just like being at home for them.

Your right Hill, Wrigley is sold-out for just about every game. The waiting list for season tickets is approximately 20 years. The season ticket holders pass them down through their family before thinking of getting rid of them. Every so often you hear on tv about a senior Cubs fan who only a few years old when the Cubbies last won the world series back in 1908. Yet you can go over to the south side which is about 30 minutes away and walk right-up to the White Sox box office and purchase season tickets. And the funny thing is the Sox won the world series in '05, and they still can't sell out games unless it's against the Cubs or Red Sox or Yankees.

[Padrino]

That was some good shit right there!..

[Padrino]

Pathetic way to lose a game. The Angels own the Dodgers like the Chargers own the Raiders...

[Doyers y Esleigher]

We need our roided Dominican to match their roided Dominican.

[Raiderette619]

Ok tonight Imma go to my first game this season...Go Padres!!!
:sofa:
lol

[Corndog]

We need our roided Dominican to match their roided Dominican.

Totally missed Manny, last night. They left far too many runners on base.

[Corndog]

We need our roided Dominican to match their roided Dominican.

Totally missed Manny, last night.... especially in the 9th inning. They left far too many runners on base.

[chitown]

Cubbies win three straight in walk-off wins, what a game today 13 innings and former Cub Kerry Wood blows back to back saves.

[SONIC]

Joe Morgan is a fucking moron as a MLB color commentator

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Joe Morgan isn't as bad this year because nothing he can say will sound dumber than something Steve Phillips says.

I wish the Dodgers were never on ESPN.

[JRaider17]

Damn CC got hurt hope its not serious... and almost had a come back win today.

[Sonny Cheeba]

Kobe showed up at the Angels/Dodgers game today. How hilarious would it be if he was decked out in Angels gear from head to toe. :rofl

[raiderdude69]

Nice 4-0 lead, and very glad that was ruled a HR for Loney, but for chrissake, you can't tell me with ALL the fucking camera's ESPN's got for this game they only have a couple shitty angles they showed for the confirmation? Come on.. Not that I'm complaining but getting clarification would be nice..

Anyway, Kershaw threw a great game, got a out of a couple jams (that 1-2-3 DP was HUGE) and got the job done.. Just get this last out in the 8th and keep Broxton warmed up in case some shit happens..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Kobe showed up at the Angels/Dodgers game today. How hilarious would it be if he was decked out in Angels gear from head to toe. :rofl

He knows better. LA is not Cleveland. We wouldn't forgive Lebron for wearing the Yankee hat so the Angel gear on Kobe is out.

[raiderdude69]

There we go with the fucked up STUPID ASS rally monkeys again..

[raiderdude69]

He knows better. LA is not Cleveland. We wouldn't forgive Lebron for wearing the Yankee hat so the Angel gear on Kobe is out.

Hell, he's probably a Phillie fan anyway.. Just going to the Angel game 'cause Newport Beach is right there.. Besides, OC chicks ain't bad at all..

[raiderdude69]

Casey fucked up that one.. Shit.. Get Broxton ready.. Oops, here he comes..

[raiderdude69]

NICE job by Broxton to get the whiff with the bases juiced.. 4-1 heading to the 9th..

[raiderdude69]

Sweet..

Got kinda dicey in the 9th there, but Broxton gets it done.. And that shoulda been an error on Kemp.. Hometown scoring, but doesn't matter in the end (except for Broxton's ERA).. Two outta three against the hated Angels.. Works for me..

[SONIC]

Good game Dodger fans. Seeing as you took two out of 3 in Anaheim and we took 2 out of 3 in your house. I guess we are even this year for this annual get-together.

See you next year.

[GenRaider]

Fuck the Angels.

[Corndog]

Fuck the Angels.

+1

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Why are the Dodgers winning games? Our best players are putting up awful numbers and our offense is being carried by Matt Kemp, Juan Pierre and Orlando Hudson. Our starters rarely go more than 5 2/3 innings. Our two best middle relievers are on pace for 100 innings each. This team is literally defying every conventional baseball theory. Teams that win like this almost always hit a wall, but Manny's back in 9 games so that's not really possible.

Don't look now though, the Rockies and Giants are over .500. Don't ask how the Rockies won 16 out of 17 by replacing Clint Hurdle with Jim Tracy, I have no answer.

Oh, and if the Angels fired Mike Scioscia tomorrow I'd take tomorrow's odds that they were going to win the American League, possibly World Series.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Why are the Dodgers winning games? Our best players are putting up awful numbers and our offense is being carried by Juan Pierre and Orlando Hudson. Our starters rarely go more than 5 2/3 innings. Our two best middle relievers are on pace for 100 innings each. This team is literally defying every conventional baseball theory. Teams that win like this almost always hit a wall, but Manny's back in 9 games so that's not really possible.

Don't look now though, the Rockies and Giants are over .500. Don't ask how the Rockies won 16 out of 17 by replacing Clint Hurdle with Jim Tracy, I have no answer.

Oh, and if the Angels fired Mike Scioscia tomorrow I'd take tomorrow's odds that they were going to win the American League, possibly World Series.

[ROCKET]

Pretty crazy when put in to perspective like that...Since you mentioned Manny, I think I might catch a game here while he is in town.

[el boracho]

Fuck the Angels.

dam right ....cant stand all these bandwagon angel fans in LA .....where were they at a few years ago...Fxck them....

[Padrino]

Should have been a sweep, but I'll take 2 out of 3.

GO BLUE!..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

dam right ....cant stand all these bandwagon angel fans in LA .....where were they at a few years ago...Fxck them....

I still rarely ever see Angels fans in LA County.

[Corndog]

I still rarely ever see Angels fans in LA County.

There are quite a few around the LBC. I'm assuming it's due to our close proximity to Angel Stadium.

Fuck the Angels.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

LBC is so close to OC that it makes sense. Once you get past the border it's pretty much all Dodgers.

[TruR8r]

Good game Dodger fans. Seeing as you took two out of 3 in Anaheim and we took 2 out of 3 in your house. I guess we are even this year for this annual get-together.

See you next year.

What no confidence in a Dodger/Angel WS? I know my Dodgers will be there. BTW Trust me I have brought up the dumb ass rally monkey thing during a meeting and I always got fired for telling them to get rid of it. :D No but seriously it needs to go it's so 2002.

[SONIC]

What no confidence in a Dodger/Angel WS? I know my Dodgers will be there. BTW Trust me I have brought up the dumb ass rally monkey thing during a meeting and I always got fired for telling them to get rid of it. :D No but seriously it needs to go it's so 2002.

I try to be realistic with my team. I'll bash them on areas where they deserve it. We are an incosistent team, injuries haven't helped us either. Angel management seemed "satisfied" with what we had because it led us to 100 wins last season but 100 wins don't mean shit when you get your ass handed to you in the playoffs where it really counts. A consistently winning team never rests on its laurels with the players they had from the previous year, they try and sign free agents to help fill the void, especially if they fit their system. They also put the best effort possible to re-sign key players, before this season started & we did NOTHING.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I try to be realistic with my team. I'll bash them on areas where they deserve it. We are an incosistent team, injuries haven't helped us either. Angel management seemed "satisfied" with what we had because it led us to 100 wins last season but 100 wins don't mean shit when you get your ass handed to you in the playoffs where it really counts. A consistently winning team never rests on its laurels with the players they had from the previous year, they try and sign free agents to help fill the void, especially if they fit their system. They also put the best effort possible to re-sign key players, before this season started & we did NOTHING.

What were the Angels going to do? Pay $200 million for Tex and overpay for K-Rod? Moreno's money is tied directly to the economy so that wasn't happening. The Angels aren't in a bad position right now and clearly you haven't paid attention to the wealth of talent in their minor league system. Mike Scioscia's bullshit managing is what kills that team.

I'd hate an Angels/Dodgers World Series right now. How do you sell something as an intense rivalry when every game in Dodger Stadium would be nothing but Dodgers fans and every game in Anaheim would be 50/50? The story of the series would be the Dodgers looking to reclaim history and the Angels "battle for legitimacy." Furthermore, if the Dodgers clinched in Anaheim, Angel Stadium would probably get burned to the ground. I'm serious about that.

IMO, it's a much better World Series in 2019.

[chitown]

Found out today I will be going to the Dodger's Giants game home opening weekend for the Raiders. Saturday night basesball I've heard about the rivalry before but always wanted to check out the ballpark in SF.

[GenRaider]

Found out today I will be going to the Dodger's Giants game home opening weekend for the Raiders. Saturday night basesball I've heard about the rivalry before but always wanted to check out the ballpark in SF.

Hit me up dude... i'll probably be at the game...

[chitown]

Hit me up dude... i'll probably be at the game...

K, I'm not sure where my seats are but I'll pm you my cell b4 I head out that weekend.

[GenRaider]

K, I'm not sure where my seats are but I'll pm you my cell b4 I head out that weekend.

for sure... i'll make it a point to buy beer with my dodger bank card; lol.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Regardless of whether I stay until Monday, I'm probably going to that series too.

[SONIC]

Look who's back on top of the division? The bullpen, including Brian Fuentes, did good against the Rockies last night. Hopefully we take the series & head into Arizona with some momentum.

[Padrino]

Found out today I will be going to the Dodger's Giants game home opening weekend for the Raiders. Saturday night basesball I've heard about the rivalry before but always wanted to check out the ballpark in SF.


Nice. I may try to make it up that weekend, too...

[Doyers y Esleigher]

With the way the Dodgers and Giants are playing, that could have some serious implications!

How insane would it be if the Giants won the Wild Card and the Dodgers and Giants made it to the NLCS?

[Don]

Holy shit is Tim Lincecum an outstanding pitcher. He torched my A's last night like he owned the place. 12 strike outs and they shut down two consecutive innings with the bases loaded on double plays..

[Doyers y Esleigher]

The one worry I'd have as a Giants fan is the offense. You can only win for so long when you're ranked 28th in runs scored, tied for dead last in home runs, dead last in team OBP, and 28th in team SLG.

[Don]

Yeah, their offense is no bueno. I just cant get over how a shaggy headed 185 lb. kid can be so damn crafty on the mound.

[Padrino]

How insane would it be if the Giants won the Wild Card and the Dodgers and Giants made it to the NLCS?

That would raise our rivalry up 10 notches. As if it weren't heated enough.

I hope it happens! SoCal vs. NoCal for the rite to represent the NL in the Series. Shit...

[SONIC]

Mike Napoli is just amazing, anybody see the BLAST he made yesterday? That ball was crushed! With the exception of the Dodgers, the N.L. West is weak. We've dominated them. But it will be even sweeter if we can do the same for the teams in our league, especially the Texas Rangers.

[SONIC]

Brian Fuentes may have had a rough start with us but lately he has been unscored upon in his last 6 outings. Oh, & he has a major-league best 19 saves.

So not only have Fuentes & the Angels been hot, but the Texas Rangers have not. Looks like the annual summer swoon has come early in Texas. :D Consecutive losses for them has allowed us to retake the lead in the division from them as tje Ramgers jad beem averaging only 3 runs in an 11-game stretch earlier this month and had been batting .218 in June.

I'm loving it!:dj::cheers:

[Raiderette619]

Found out today I will be going to the Dodger's Giants game home opening weekend for the Raiders. Saturday night basesball I've heard about the rivalry before but always wanted to check out the ballpark in SF.

Hit me up dude... i'll probably be at the game...

I'm going to that game too. I'm going w/my prima, her man,cynthia and papafred..not sure if another friend is still gonna hit it up tho. I'll definitely have to hook up with you 2 over there. :)

[Bump]

Brian Fuentes may have had a rough start with us but lately he has been unscored upon in his last 6 outings. Oh, & he has a major-league best 19 saves.

So not only have Fuentes & the Angels been hot, but the Texas Rangers have not. Looks like the annual summer swoon has come early in Texas. :D Consecutive losses for them has allowed us to retake the lead in the division from them as tje Ramgers jad beem averaging only 3 runs in an 11-game stretch earlier this month and had been batting .218 in June.

I'm loving it!:dj::cheers:

just to get your dreams crushed by small ball in the playoffs again....

it will happen just like it always does, like its scripted.

[chitown]

I'm going to that game too. I'm going w/my prima, her man,cynthia and papafred..not sure if another friend is still gonna hit it up tho. I'll definitely have to hook up with you 2 over there. :)

What kinda hooking up r we talking about?:laugh:

[Raiderette619]

What kinda hooking up r we talking about?:laugh:

take ur mind outta the gutter ....SMH

[chitown]

take ur mind outta the gutter ....SMH

If it weren't for the gutter, I'd have no place at all :D

[Doyers y Esleigher]

Brian Fuentes may have had a rough start with us but lately he has been unscored upon in his last 6 outings. Oh, & he has a major-league best 19 saves.

So not only have Fuentes & the Angels been hot, but the Texas Rangers have not. Looks like the annual summer swoon has come early in Texas. :D Consecutive losses for them has allowed us to retake the lead in the division from them as tje Ramgers jad beem averaging only 3 runs in an 11-game stretch earlier this month and had been batting .218 in June.

I'm loving it!:dj::cheers:

Small sample size statistics are meaningless and so are save counts.

The Angels should take that division without problem. Texas will be done by August.

[Doyers y Esleigher]

I'm going to that game too. I'm going w/my prima, her man,cynthia and papafred..not sure if another friend is still gonna hit it up tho. I'll definitely have to hook up with you 2 over there. :)

Wear a Raiders shirt and a Padres hat to that game so fans of both sides will hate you. That would probably be hilarious.

[Raiderette619]

Wear a Raiders shirt and a Padres hat to that game so fans of both sides will hate you. That would probably be hilarious.

LMAO..I was gonna wear something Padres..I don't give a fuk...even if they do suck they are my team..that would be hilarious haha

[Padrino]

Wear a Raiders shirt and a Padres hat to that game so fans of both sides will hate you. That would probably be hilarious.

Do it, Jan!..

[Raiderette619]

Do it, Jan!..

haha I would..I have no problem w/that

[Padrino]

Take a picture of it!


2 -2, bottom of the 10th. GO BLUE!..

[raiderdude69]

Damn, this game is in the 13th inning, still tied at 2.. Both teams BLOWING chances to win the ballgame.. McDonald's GOTTA be the last dude in their bullpen..

That's ok, listening to the sweet voice of one Mr. Vin Scully NEVER sucks..

[raiderdude69]

Fuckin A.. Eithier wins it with a two run bomb in the bottom of the 13th.. Stay 7 games up on the oncoming Giants.. That fucker Lickincum is SCARY good.. And the rest of their staff is rollin...

Giants-Dodgers in the NLCS.. I'm callin' it right now..

[Santee]

Nice win...again. Go Blue!

[TruR8r]

Eithier has been doing some major damage.

[Santee]

Yup, I am loving this right now. Joe Torre has the crew rolling.